Damm Range Check Errors

[capnq]

The only RCEs I've gotten since Gold was released were caused by my own mistake in trying to mod something.

I honestly can't remember how long ago my Last pre-Gold RCE was; I've never gotten anywhere near the number some other people have.

[mac5732]

Just my opinion, but I wonder if the RCE's are due to various operating systems, In other words, some of us have had quite or above normal RCE's while others few or none at all, and yet its the same game. I'm not saying this could be a cause, , but I just wonder if different operating systems affect the game in different ways ?? I leave this up to those of the members that are much more computer literate then I am, but is it a possibility????

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its "THEM"

just some ideas mac

[capnq]

I just wonder if different operating systems affect the game in different ways ?? I leave this up to those of the members that are much more computer literate then I am, but is it a possibility????

I think that's not just possible, but the likely cause. It certainly seems to me that Win98 and WinME produce more reports of RCEs than Win95 does.

[Gandalph]

Originally posted by capnq:
I think that's not just possible, but the likely cause. It certainly seems to me that Win98 and WinME produce more reports of RCEs than Win95 does.

I am not to sure about that. I run SEIV Gold primarily on my Win98 gaming system with no errors since the Last patch. I always have the forum running in the background and Winamp playing my 10Gig collection of MP3's. I also run SEIV Gold on my Win2k laptop, also with no errors since the Last patch (1.67). I personally believe that it is caused by hardware and software configurations (ie: not all hardware and software are as compatable as people may think), which better explains why some are plagued by it while others don't see it. There are a variety of things you can do to "tweak" your system to be more complacent to RCE's and IPF's, but they generally involve some level of registry editing so are not appealling to the general public. I carry most of these "tweaks" in my arsenal of CD's, so I could post a couple of the more important ones, if desired, with the complete understanding that, without looking at your particular configuration, I can offer no guarantee as to their effectiveness or stability on your particular system.

[Jmenschenfresser]

Found I a RCE I haven't read about on the forum before...a modded error though.

Just as there is a max number of systems that is safe, so there is a minimum also. I'm not sure what it is though. I set it to five, three and one. Got RCE on all. Although I was able to start several games on 3 and 5 that didn't get the error.

go figure

[mac5732]

It could be both, systems and/or software hardware problems. It just seems to me when a number of gamers posted RCE's, index errors, etc, more so before the latest patches, it appeared they were mostly of the same type of operating system. Possibly a poll of say the different operating systems, graphics card, etc, in order to see if there possibly is some type of connection. The patches have cleared up a lot of those from before but they still do appear tho less frequently, but again more so in specific systems.. hmm

Gandalph, your offer is much appreciated and I'm sure will be well received if you want to post. Especially from those of us who are computer illieterate and don't understand or know a Bios from a tigga's tail...

just some ideas mac

[Gandalph]

Another consideration would be brand of system. Many off-the-shelf type systems (ie: Compaq, HP, Emachine, etc.) care more about self promotion than they do about PC optimization. I have seen these types of systems come out of the box with less than 50% resources free due to brand specific garbage being loaded at system start up. Personally I find that extremely annoying, although profitable when those systems take a dive a year later when the consumer adds the latest 3D game to their system and it all comes tumbling down.

About the tweaks, I will post them with a disclaimer and include them in my sig, or perhaps a new thread (not sure how to proceed with that).

EDIT - Damn typo's, and I even previewed this one!

[ May 17, 2002, 20:27: Message edited by: Gandalph ]

[DirectorTsaarx]

There was a thread a few months ago where some RCE's were traced directly to a series of Dell laptops, so there are definitely some hardware (& possibly OS) issues out there...

[Derek]

Hmm, interesting. Why would the hardware matter? I mean, my programming skills are C and Basic (not VBasic, just Commodore 64 Basic... ) so I can't really say, but as I understand the Windows enviroment, you don't write directly to the hardware, but rather to the OS. If this is true then the hardware shouldn't matter at all. Of course, this is assuming the programming is done correctly. If shortcuts are taken, and the game is writing directly to the hardware, then all bets are off. This could, of course, explain why there is no wheel mouse support...

Derek

Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:
There was a thread a few months ago where some RCE's were traced directly to a series of Dell laptops, so there are definitely some hardware (& possibly OS) issues out there...

[Gandalph]

[quote]Originally posted by Derek:
<snip>Why would the hardware matter?<snip>

That is a question that a lowly PC Tech like me cannot answer, I only know for sure that it does. As an example, I had a system go haywire on me that took me 3 weeks to figure out that Macafee AV and the LS 120 Superdrive could not get along in the same system.

Having built 1,000's of new and used systems, I can definitely tell you that some hardware/software configurations just don't get along, and there seems to be no rhyme or reason for it. I would suspect the way the Windows HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) communicates between the hardware and the software's API(Application Programming Interface, IIRC), but alas, I am not an Engineer. They get paid WAY more to screw the things up that I get to fix.