Possible Survivor 2 tourney... - Page 2

geoschmo · #11 June 14th, 2002, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Stone Mill:
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Seems to be a good idea.

I'm just curious... what were the results of Survivor One? Was there an official thread with standings and the renound final "Survivor"?

This would be an interesting read, in my opinion.

Yep, here it is.

Stone Mill · #12 June 17th, 2002, 03:59 PM

Thanks for the link, geo-

Seems like your updated idea should go much quicker than the first Survivor tourney. The problem with these things is that it's really not "the best of the best," as the best players, as you mentioned, can be dogpiled and removed early. As with the TV show, usually someone flying under the radar wins. A fun concept, no less.

geoschmo · #13 June 17th, 2002, 04:14 PM

True Stone Mill. By goal was that exactly. With a game like SEIV there really is no way to determine who the best player is, becasue there are so many different aspects of the game that are important, and so many different ways to play the game. I think this format would offer many different challanges, military, economic, and diplomatic.

And keep in mind that being dogpiled wouldn't neccesarily mean gauranteed death for a better player. Since alliances are such varporous things, and this game is so cuthroat. You might form an alliance to go after someone and while your ships are off attacking them one of your allies could turn on you and wipe out your empire. Choosing the easy kill and an alliance with a stronger player.

Even if that doesn't happen, the target of your alliance doesn't have to defeat all of you. Just the weakest member of your group, or someone else entirely, or simply hold on until someone gets pasted somewhere else in the galaxy. And then your card is played and they will be gunning for you in the next round.

It all sounds very interesting to me, even more so after thinking about it more.

Geoschmo

Jmenschenfresser · #14 June 18th, 2002, 04:40 AM

I assmue this means playing 19 games...granted that the first dozen have the possibility to end fast.

However, I can see the Last few games, other than the 1 on 1, might lack a real sense of competition simply because all wrath will naturally drift toward the weakest. A gang effect.

If this is a thread just for new tourney ideas, I'd like to suggest a team tourney. With either two or three empires to a team. Teams taken by lot or simply by buds who want to play several games together. Each team plays all other teams, top two standings play each other in the world (and i do mean world, unlike other misleading sports) series.

Just ideas

geoschmo · #15 June 18th, 2002, 04:54 AM

Well there is plenty of room in the SE universe from more than one tournament. I would like to see someone do a team tournament. The Suvivor Tourney isn't a team event though.

Geoschmo

Gimboid · #16 June 18th, 2002, 05:42 AM

Well you could always make it a team event for the first few rounds of the tourney till the numbers started to get thin

Just like in the real tv show where first they play the challenges for the team, then it switches to individual glory near the end game.

It could be done, depends if you want to do it

geoschmo · #17 June 18th, 2002, 05:51 AM

Well you are certainly free to make alliances or whatever you feel would get you deeper into the tournament. What I don't want to do is force these artifically on people. I want people to be free to make or break alliances whenever they feel it benefits them the most. This way you never know if your ally is going to turn on you. It's that little extra bit of the unknown that makes things really interesting.

Geoschmo

Fyron · #18 June 18th, 2002, 06:37 AM

Well, count me in!

Bman · #19 June 18th, 2002, 03:37 PM

I'd love to play but I know I could never keep up with 36hr turns. It is an effort for me to do 48hr turns as it is.

Stone Mill · #20 June 18th, 2002, 04:21 PM

Consider this:

Start with two "tribes"; one game dedicated to each. Each tribe must eliminate it's weakest member.

At some point, the tribes must merge, and then there will be a free-for-all. However, as with the show- alliances will preserve within the tribes. You will see that cross-tribal alliances will be rare. After playing 10 or so rounds of "you get my back, I'll get yours," you will tend to trust that person when the two tribes merge into one game, rather than some fresh meat. Besides, you will be suspicious and paranoid (and rightly so) of the alliances formed by the other tribe.

Another thing to add as a feature to this game is "IMMUNITY." If you are the player who successfully eliminates the weak race, you get to sit out the next round. That will provide incentive for aggressors, rather than having everyone adopt long drawn-out defensive postures. That should help hurry along playing time.