MP: Gluttony - LA Game - Running

[sansanjuan]

Originally Posted by Awund

You're giving sansanjuan too much credit here. I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he definitely is. However this has nothing to do with Agartha.

I think I was the spankie last turn.

8 gizzled old frail mages puttering in the garden in beautiful downtown Lankwood and ... WHAM. Rain of Stones Rain of Stones Rain of Stones. The garden didn't fair too well either.


-Agartha

[Finalgenesis]

The llama server timer is killin' me here, I manage to stale again trusting that timer, this is getting really tiring and discouraging to get screwed multiple times like this.

It seems out of my few games on llamaserver this is the only game that gives me false timer, it's probably going to keep happening.

I don't really want to (or plan to) look at the new turn after another wonderful stale *sigh*. Anyway I think it's a sign.

Edit: I'll try to look for a sub, you may need to pause this unless you don't mind an AI.

[sansanjuan]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

The llama server timer is killin' me here, I manage to stale again trusting that timer, this is getting really tiring and discouraging to get screwed multiple times like this.

It seems out of my few games on llamaserver this is the only game that gives me false timer, it's probably going to keep happening.

I don't really want to (or plan to) look at the new turn after another wonderful stale *sigh*. Anyway I think it's a sign.

Edit: I'll try to look for a sub, you may need to pause this unless you don't mind an AI.

ooc
Final,
That stinks. I'm away from home but the score table says the turn went well for me. If you want to reroll the turn say the word and I will vote with you. You have been singlehandedly fighting ... almost everyone and, considering your resources,... doing CRAZY well. Superb tactics with not a penny or gem wasted. Art. I for one would be sorry to see you go because of a bad server clock.

ssj

[Mauxe]

I am fine with rolling back.
Don't really want to play with stale turns if we can help it.
I haven't even looked at the new turn yet.

Mauxe

[Awund]

I've staled as well the last turn, so of course I wouldn't mind a rollback. However I knew the when the deadline was, so the stall really was my own fault. As such I'm fine either way, if we continue it's ok for me too.
Finalgenesis: You've been playing really good, so it'd be a shame if you left this game. I really hope my recent actions had nothing to do with that.

[Finalgenesis]

Awund, while your hit really hurt (applause ! Though I still suspect a puppet master ) I would never bail out from losing and always fight to the last to the point when I can make no difference as an AI. I do derive some small bit of satisfaction from exacting a price from my malefactors.

The problem is I can make good on my commitment against humans, but when its the server kicking your @$$, there's nothing I can do, no matter how good I do and what plans I have in progress, the server can (and did, and probably will continue to) screw me at any time. I can handle it once, but now that it's shown itself to be a persistent problem there's no point in playing this game against the server. This stale KILLED me (I don't even have to look at my turn), and it just pisses me off when I'm on the ball checking server time, doing diplo, planning, grand plans half in motion and generally playing a decent game, then get ****** by the server, again, with more to come down the line. It's like playing chess with a lunatic, who throws the rules out the window and shoves it's king up your *** while screaming "CHECKMATE! CHECKMATE!" (pardon my analogy).

Luckily the timer issue is just for this game (I have no timer problem on the other games), so I figure I can just drop this bugged game and cross my fingers it won't happen to my others.

I appreciate the free server llamabeast provides and am impressed how stable it is. Inevitably these little hiccup happens (that's why it's called bugs, impossible to exterminate ), this hiccup in particular makes this specific game frustrating for me.

I realize I could keep track of the hosting interval myself, and I may have to go with that here if I continue (and sometimes I forget the last hosting time, or not sure when exactly it was hosted...). I rely on the timer at llamaserver and I really do use most/all of the time available planning diplo and planning moves (I have a gemflow forecast and spreadsheet for Gluttony for god's sake). Thus having a bad timer is a killer on me. You could say I'm whining and probably be half right, but the fact is a bad timer makes it hard for me to play and supremely frustrating given the effort I put in.

I did pm llamabeast about it, hopefully he can pinpoint what the problem is. If this problem can be fixed I'd that'd be great, I have no qualm getting my behind handed to me by humans, just not the server.

I didn't consider rollback actually, as it seems by general consensus to be a bad idea from what I read from the vets. I'm not sure what problem can come from rollback, so do tell if anyone knows... But if everyone is good with it though I definitely would want it to be honest. Meanwhile I'll see what luck I have in fixing the server timer (maybe impose on one of you to post server host time you see in forum? As it sometimes don't show up right for me).

[sansanjuan]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

Awund, while your hit really hurt
I didn't consider rollback actually, as it seems by general consensus to be a bad idea from what I read from the vets. I'm not sure what problem can come from rollback, so do tell if anyone knows... But if everyone is good with it though I definitely would want it to be honest. Meanwhile I'll see what luck I have in fixing the server timer (maybe impose on one of you to post server host time you see in forum? As it sometimes don't show up right for me).

If I recall rollback issues can sometimes manifest due to unit ids somehow getting out of synch. I've been through one rollback with no issues many moons ago. Perhaps llamabeast might comment. I will PM him and ask if he might comment.
-ssj

[Finalgenesis]

Hope he replies soon, I really wouldn't mind a rollback if it doesn't cause any problems.

[sansanjuan]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

Hope he replies soon, I really wouldn't mind a rollback if it doesn't cause any problems.

No word from Llama so I posted in the main thread. If we still don't get any direction I say we give it a go. I did see the turn but will submit the same assuming that others that did not stale will do the same.

-ssj

[Mauxe]

I'll submit the same.