Jotunland (PBEM) - (game on!) - Page 22

namad · #**211** August 18th, 2008, 08:08 PM

would anyone like to sell me some earth gems? i can pay in other types of gems or in gold

Pretorian · #**212** August 19th, 2008, 03:48 AM

2GrudgeBringer:
It sounds loud!
But what do we have in reality: there are no troops of mine on the Helheim's territories. Only one territory (№55), (which I have inherited from my forerunner) might belong to that country, and I don't mind, if he brings it back. My forces entered only Kailasa's provinces.
And one more question: why did you capture upper province (№70) of your ally Kailassa? I didn't have enough troops last turn to do it myself.

Several month in a row GrudgeBringer told what my troops have to do and where they must go, and was changing his plans every half of an hour. At last I was tired of it, and I do as I planned from the begining. And I didn't climb into Helheim territories.

So war? War is good...

GrudgeBringer · #**213** August 19th, 2008, 08:43 AM

I believe I have stated my case to you in privite with just an overlay on the forum.

I took more than one of my allies provinces with his permission in order to have a better permission to defend agianst you as an agressor.

You have not shown the courtesy that you seem to imply and YES, you have decided to do what you want in my teritory.

I will let this game rest on the next few turns, but don't let kalissa fool you..he is a strong player and has set many traps for the unsuspecting.

Also I think you may have a suprise in store for you.

However, there are never any hard feelings or carry over to another game...so good luck, we will both learn some things and If you win you will have HUGE territories to bask in!!

Pretorian · #**214** August 19th, 2008, 09:43 AM

I repeat: these territories are not yours! Doesn't matter. I'll destroy both of you

)) ...if I can.

Nothing person.

CyborgMoses · #**215** August 19th, 2008, 07:36 PM

Is anyone selling Dwarven Hammers at the moment? If so, then Fomoria would be interested in buying one.

chrispedersen · #**216** August 19th, 2008, 10:03 PM

From my own perspective, a non agression treaty means you will take no actions to harm the person with whom you have a treaty.

So for example, If I am about to invade a territory - and you conquer it specifically to prevent it - you have violated the nap.

Territories 55, 70, 46 were all kailasa's when I invaded 55.
Words otherwise simply aren't the truth.

CyborgMoses · #**217** August 19th, 2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

From my own perspective, a non agression treaty means you will take no actions to harm the person with whom you have a treaty.

So for example, If I am about to invade a territory - and you conquer it specifically to prevent it - you have violated the nap.

Territories 55, 70, 46 were all kailasa's when I invaded 55.
Words otherwise simply aren't the truth.

I have never heard of such an interpretation of the phrase "non-agression", for what it's worth. Attacking a third party hardly seems like an aggressive action.

namad · #**218** August 19th, 2008, 10:34 PM

i think it's pretty common for people to do this... generally it makes you hate the person and want to go to war with them... but i don't believe it specifically breaks the NAP terms...

i think it's a pretty grey area... and i suppose if you wanted to avoid having it happen you'd have to PM someone before you invaded a 3rd party that was adjacent to both people...

i mean in another game i had someone teleport into a province that i was going to attack.. win the battle then rout me off as well... then claim well... we have a nap and i was here first so i'm keeping it... it makes you hate them but i don't think it counts as an outright lie... unless maybe you specifically ask them not too

i think generally a nap has the terms you agree upon plus no attacking... any additional terms about neutral provinces probably just have to be included as separate terms?

i've also discussed specifically which independents each party would claim and then had the other person just take the ones he promised to me and say... well i didn't attack you so you shouldn't complain even though we spent ages specifically discussing which independents each party would take...

CyborgMoses · #**219** August 20th, 2008, 07:23 PM

The Fomorian nation is struggling to come up with the funds necessary to survive. We are now selling all the gems we can for 15 gold or best offer. We are not in possession of any astral pearls, but all other varieties are up for grabs.

namad · #**220** August 21st, 2008, 04:39 PM

is llamaserver down or something? two of my emails from today weren't accepted (no acknowledgement no error)