OT: Season 3 BSG

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AngleWyrm said:
Cylon evolution?

Maybe the first generation built a better cylon, which built a better cylon, which built their god. And god built the skin jobs.

So why are the metal jobs still mindless drones? No there’s more to the story than simple robotic evolution here. We don't really know what the real story is behind the cylon revolution. Were they all the old chrome domes that achieved sentience? If so then why didn't they pass that down to their later metal robotic versions? I really cannot see a cylon, even the old ones, working as a housekeeper. Where did they get arms? Who was the first alive cylon or the first to become sentient? Was it a chrome dome working in some home as a maid or was it a military version used to fight against humans in the colonies?

What is the story behind sentient cylon case 1?
Was that cylon a metal version or a more humanoid resembling model?
How did the sentience spread to other cylons?
What were the cylons being used for that caused to become hostile upon achieving sentience?
Who led the cylons into rebellion and beyond?
What cylon later developed war machines and human versions?
Where are all of the old versions? Were they scrapped or mothballed?
Who is the cylon God?
Is this cylon God really a human? Could this God of theirs be behind the entire cylon evolution from plain old inanimate object to sentient mass murdering homicidal robot?

These questions are all valid and beg to be answered. The mystery needs to be unveiled. The story must be told.

[Randallw]

Athena said the Centurions are limited in their programming, so they don't rise up against the human models.

It raises the question of since the metals must have made the human forms, how did the human forms come to rule over the metals.

Of course there might be a main cylon somewhere, not human form, that runs things. An "Imperious leader" of sorts. I can see them avoiding such a name but perhaps, as an homage to the original, a human form might sarcastically refer to it as "Our Imperious leader"

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Wouldn't it just be wicked evil if that Imperious Leader was a very old Baltar? He wanted to find a way to transfer his soul into machine so that he could live forever and in doing so created the first sentient cylons and later the human versions?

That would explain a lot about Baltar and Six.

[Hugh Manatee]

My crackpot birth of the cylon theories:

A: When the colonials say "cylon" I kinda think they mean it the same way when we say "robot". Any man made AI automoton would have been called a cylon, weather it was a armed securty centurion or an auto dishwasher bot.

B: In efforts to improve the capabilities of "cylons" they keep improving their AIs, not realizing that if they make then sentient they may seek independance. Furthermore it sounds like, from what I can recall of the miniseries prmier, they also had a large network not entirely unlike the internet linking all technology together. The colonials probably built a "sky-net" cylon, it got PO'd and h4x0r3D the cylons with it's own sentience program, war and chaos ensues ending ith the cylons retreating from the planets. Whatever sentience sent them haywire in the first place is possibly their "god" or invented their god for their AI to believe in, and seeing ahead decided to produce the retard chrome domes we have now to lessen the chance of rebellion.

C: We saw one of the original Cylon Centurion models in a museum exibit on the galactica, so we know that they've been upgrading themselves. Perhaps the 5 original models were horrific failures or maybe they did rebel and this is why we have shortbus toasters now and zealot skin jobs. I recall from the OBSG that the lucifer and other "clear plastic pinheaded stuffed with christmas lights with blinking wax lips" were kinda baskstabbing and one upping in nature, maybe they will use it.

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"Hunny why is the dish washer bot holding my gu----"

I know what they became alive! Some sick *** demented women wanted to be free of her over loving rich husbands oppressive care so she hot wired her chrome toaster and programed it to kill. In doing so she accidently gave it living intelligence thus making it sentient.

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I recall from the OBSG that the lucifer and other "clear plastic pinheaded stuffed with christmas lights with blinking wax lips" were kinda baskstabbing and one upping in nature, maybe they will use it.

In DS9 they were called VORTA.

[Randallw]

Except of course the Vorta would die before turning on the founders. I always wondered why the Jem'Hadar had to be addicted to white when if you created them properly they should have a aneurysm if they ever opposed the founders. Then again I guess they had to fit the story. I have always thought having AIs become self aware and turn on you wouldn't really happen since if you REALLY made them properly they would be programmed not to. The whole uprising thing is a way of criticising humans as making errors when properly programming machines would avoid it.

I am wondering, anyone seen "Second Renaisance". What if the first cylon to rebel was like B1-66ER?

[Hugh Manatee]

thats what I was thinking of too, but I figured Sky-Net to be more well known (btw second renaisance was pretty badass)

[Renegade 13]

Is it just me, or has the latter part of this season of BSG turned into a massive flop? It seems that all that happens, every episode, is essentially a lot of inconsequential jibber-jabber, or one character or another having their bout of illogical emotional angst. It's like a bunch of 13 year old emo kids have started writing all the episodes! The Cylons are barely even present at all anymore...which seems rather odd considering BSG is a story of their flight from and fight with the Cylons.

I used to look forward to each episode of BSG...but it's lost what made it so great in the previous seasons

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i didnt even care they killed off starbuck.