Updates in light of Ukraine war

[Karagin]

Quick question, are the NATO supplied armor and such, are they being sent with NATO secondary weapons like the CMGs and such or not? Looking at the logistical nightmare part of sending in things that they don't have a lot of ammo for.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Using the M113A3 for the first question, it is unclear whether or not they're getting the mated MG 12.7mm from us.

Italy has already sent them the M2 Browning 12.7mm and it's in the field and has been for about two weeks now with some not working properly (Now fixed from poor PMS by Italy.), however Italy did supply them with ammo.

To the second in the area of Armor and Artillery the donating countries have sent them out with ammo. Using the U.S. by way of example and the following is also now confirmed, when we shipped the first set of M777 155mm artillery they went with 180,000+ rounds of ammo.

So yes, for ammo being supplied from rifles to artillery shells.

It should be noted the Ukraine has been handed over 80% of the M777 units shipped from the U.S. as of four days ago.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...oned-artillery
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...o_ukraine.html

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

A couple of videos of interest

The first one is from an Estonian.... there is something hinky at 2:50 that make it look fake or at least altered but it also suggest Russian small unit tactics are not the best and that there are actions being take in Russia.... fires in places there should not be

Drone video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ4HxpQQ3Sg

Fire map

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov...;@45.6,51.9,6z

The other suggests HIMARS have been sent to Ukraine.... I will wait for confirmation on that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzAI2lIRvjg

( this may be it.........https://avia-pro.net/news/na-ukrainu...sti-rossiyskim )

This one suggests a Kessel in the making near Izyum that would POTENTIALLY cut off supplies to 22,000 Russian troops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg_K59w07Ec

[blazejos]

Interesting story about Holocaust survivor from Mariupol and how she compare this siege to famous siege of Leningrad which she also experience when was younger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSdoXxfmdY

[webego]

Interesting stories about how Ukrainian Nazis killed civilians in Mariupol.
https://youtu.be/23EZ5lJEu2A

[DRG]

Originally Posted by webego

Interesting stories about how Ukrainian Nazis killed civilians in Mariupol.
https://youtu.be/23EZ5lJEu2A

Interesting only if you want to believe it. It's the narrative the Russians have been using to justify their invasion from the start. That does not make it true but the entire situation from the start has been "complicated"

[webego]

Originally Posted by DRG

Interesting only if you want to believe it. It's the narrative the Russians have been using to justify their invasion from the start. That does not make it true but the entire situation from the start has been "complicated"

You can, of course, philosophize )) Everyone decides for himself what to believe. That doesn't make this video a lie. And the truth is always the same.

[Wdll]

Originally Posted by webego

You can, of course, philosophize )) Everyone decides for himself what to believe. That doesn't make this video a lie. And the truth is always the same.

No. The truth changes. The facts are objective. You take the facts and build a truth.

Like how from the two countries, one invaded the other while it was under no threat from it, yet it blames the defending country for it.
Then again Putin himself said just before the invasion that Ukraine does not exist, is not real and should "join" Russia. You know, like how Nazi Germany did just before the onset of the WWII.

This time, once again, Russia is the bad guy. Russia is the invading force. Russia is the evil that must be stopped. Everything else is just Putin's truth. The invasion is the fact.

[blazejos]

If we talk about which true is an real one and which not now about war in Ukraine I d'like to post here polish song from early 1995 written around 30 years ago when we all believed that better World is our future!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1gfXVRqRA

We were all wrong and that is why written by Leszek Czajkowski

[webego]

interesting song.
Plus, the truth can be uncomfortable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDG_hWlVda4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGdUtUefjCA

For example:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8066761.html
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.co...alia-abstains/

Here is another interesting video about the old lady:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfeflkpcOi4