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Old October 5th, 2006, 10:41 AM

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Yep, that's the one, Kristoffer.

"Chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie w Szczebrzeszynie."

This is the point where most English speakers ask for more vowels

Mystery solved! Jason Lutes handed over the almost-completed map to Bruce Geryk in order to fill in the location names (he was pressed for time). Turns out Mr. Geryk was born in Poland

Now to see if I can sneak a peek at the demo at work...
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Old October 5th, 2006, 11:50 AM

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Yep, that's the one, Kristoffer.

"Chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie w Szczebrzeszynie."

This is the point where most English speakers ask for more vowels

Mystery solved! Jason Lutes handed over the almost-completed map to Bruce Geryk in order to fill in the location names (he was pressed for time). Turns out Mr. Geryk was born in Poland

Now to see if I can sneak a peek at the demo at work...
Foreign languages are always sounds weird.
You don't want me to start to write in Hungarian trust me.
Or Nerfix/Endo in Finnish...
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Old October 8th, 2006, 12:27 AM
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I'm Jonathan. 29 years old, married, living somewhere out in Utah (it's dry and crisp, like a fine white wine). I'm from the East Coast originally-born in Pennsylvania-I just got my copy of Dom 3. I lost a big chunk of my Fritz Lieber, R.E.Howard, and Thieves World books in a bankruptsy (I hope someone at the bank likes to read).

But, it wasn't my bankruptsy, and I collect the better sword-and-sorcery books as well as movies and games. I did roleplaying games for a longer period of time than could be construed as "healthy living". I would still be roleplaying, but I'm kind of burnt out on pen-and-paper games.

One of the many, many things I particularly like about Dom 3 is that you can play Pretenders who aren't humanoid, never were humanoid, never gonna be humanoid. I've been a human my whole life (although I've heard you're briefly a frog and a lizard in the womb) and I like it just fine, but to me that's roleplaying copout. It's worse when they're humans with pointy ears or wrinkly foreheads.

Immobile polyp mothers with alien supergenius intellects and telekinetic mind-control powers rule.
So do unliving monoliths who hate and desire. Has anyone read William Hope Hodgson or the Night Lands anthology based on his works? The Monolith immobile pretender reminds me of the Watchers in his books, thus giving that particular pretender chassis the "double-creepy" factor.
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Old October 8th, 2006, 03:40 AM
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Welcome to the group! I hope you'll find the non-human nations of Dominions more than just scaly humans with tails or big humans who live in the cold.
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Old October 8th, 2006, 04:16 AM
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Thank you Endoperez, for the warm welcome.

I grew up with mythology, and to me there's a lot more power and depth to a myth than can be expressed by way of pop culture. Culture turns into myth over generations and through faith. It's an accumulation, a weight of time that really adds substance, as the metaphor suggests. To me, a Jotun out of Norse myth is an elemental force, a child of Ymmr, a glacier taking on human form/aspects with godlike proportions, and godlike character. "Big Human" doesn't do such a being justice. It doesn't qualify as it isn't and wouldn't ever be a human, even if one lived next door. The idea of Jotun comes from the human subconscious, but it also comes from our collective idea of "Them, the Outsiders, That Which Lives and is Of the Unknown". Jotuns aren't easy in the way that putting on make-up and pretending is easy. Not because of the similarities between us and Jotuns, or the differences in size or preferred climate, but because of the differences which make them alien, and how those differences affect how we view the world and our place as an individual within it.

It's my opinion that that difference is what the creators of Dom3 are striving to capture. Rather than saying "here is a dwarf" and handing a short person with a beard an axe and sending him off to rough up a skinny person with a bow and arrow and fake pointy ears, they're saying "here is what people really believed, and here is what we ourselves imagine. Only one perspective is correct and only you can decide which one that is". They manage to get right down into the heart and the question of belief. To me, that makes all the difference in the world.
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Thank you Endoperez, for the warm welcome.

I grew up with mythology, and to me there's a lot more power and depth to a myth than can be expressed by way of pop culture. Culture turns into myth over generations and through faith. It's an accumulation, a weight of time that really adds substance, as the metaphor suggests. To me, a Jotun out of Norse myth is an elemental force, a child of Ymmr, a glacier taking on human form/aspects with godlike proportions, and godlike character. "Big Human" doesn't do such a being justice. It doesn't qualify as it isn't and wouldn't ever be a human, even if one lived next door. The idea of Jotun comes from the human subconscious, but it also comes from our collective idea of "Them, the Outsiders, That Which Lives and is Of the Unknown". Jotuns aren't easy in the way that putting on make-up and pretending is easy. Not because of the similarities between us and Jotuns, or the differences in size or preferred climate, but because of the differences which make them alien, and how those differences affect how we view the world and our place as an individual within it.

It's my opinion that that difference is what the creators of Dom3 are striving to capture. Rather than saying "here is a dwarf" and handing a short person with a beard an axe and sending him off to rough up a skinny person with a bow and arrow and fake pointy ears, they're saying "here is what people really believed, and here is what we ourselves imagine. Only one perspective is correct and only you can decide which one that is". They manage to get right down into the heart and the question of belief. To me, that makes all the difference in the world.

Big words. For me the fact that everything seems to be based one mythology or another, or some myth, or story the developers heard once, or a book or an idea like the indian caste-system with the castes actually being physically different, make it feel more real. I feel like I could open an encyclopedia and learn things, and come back to the game and find out that they're already included. They go back to the roots from which the generic elves and dwarves and giants come fromm and do that very well. Their Jotun might not be the exact same giants as in the myth, but they are close enough to fit all the stories. Perhaps even up to the fear of the ringing of the church bells and the spread of Christian dominion.
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'Jotun' in old norse just means 'huge'. And the mythological ones were generally much larger than the Æsir (gods), although they came in many sizes and shapes.

If the url works, it has a nice pic of a norwegian troll - as you can see its very much an 'elemental force' and nothing like a 'mainstream fantasy troll'
http://www2.norwayshop.com/cgi-bin/o...p/sh.pl?500642
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I'm a 24 years old student in mechanical engineering. I'm a fan of strategy games (like Age of wonders 1, Space empire) and Dominions (2, now 3).

English isn't my primary langage so I'll do many typos errors. I'm the kind of gamer who spent more time thinking about the different strategies (and reading your posts guys) than actually playing them. I have a complete folder of (about 30? more?) different complete strategies for Pangaea, Serpent cult, Pangaea, Vanheim and Pangaea. I played about 8 Dom2 multiplayer games and countless SP games (to develop theses strategies for MP).

My Dom3 groupe here in Sherbrooke (Qc) is growing! I hope I'll convince them to buy the game (like me) instead of just playing with the Demo or trying to find a cd-key...
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Hey guys, I'm Juzza, I'm 14, down in australia and love dominions oh and I made a mod for dom 2! play it! please!

Owaiting some money to purchase dom 3, and then I'll need someone with a credit card to buy it for me.. oh well it's worth the effort!!
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