MP STACKERS, newbie game, (started) - Page 27

Greyjoy · #**261** June 24th, 2010, 10:18 AM

R'lyeh's definitely not getting a Christmas card from me this year.

Amadamus · #**262** June 24th, 2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Greyjoy

R'lyeh's definitely not getting a Christmas card from me this year.

Yeah what a tosser blackguard is... So much for the newb friendly game.

BG, someone obviously with more experience and knowledge than the rest of us, first hides out in the ocean then drops a big cheesy global on us knowing he cant be attacked...

Hope you feel all large and manly chalking up a win against the first timers... What a bore!

Sure its legit, but for goodness sake mate... you remind me of some dude who loves to kick down others sand castles.

Well, if he wants to win, lets give it to him, i cant frankly be arsed rebuilding again.

Greyjoy · #**263** June 24th, 2010, 11:52 AM

I'm not 100% convinced we can't bash down his globals. Clams and ocean-gems will only go so far when you have to convert them over to power a death spell, and you only hold about 15% of the map's provinces.

We'll definitely need to work together on that though, as per the ongoing PMs. I also have a few other ideas, but most of you will just have to wait and see what those are.

13lackGu4rd · #**264** June 24th, 2010, 01:56 PM

jee, that was nice Amadamus. this is still a newbie friendly game, I haven't changed that fact. I'm also still relatively newbie, that's not changed either. the only thing that's changed is that I'm playing around with globals, but than everyone can do that, and it takes absolutely no experience nor skill to do it, so I really don't see what all the fuss is about...

funny that you didn't complain when Ashdod was dominating everybody and became huge, nor are you complaining now that our friendly hypocrite Greyjoy has taken C'tis, a rather underwhelming MA nation, and is now the largest nation, even surpassing Ashdod! so much for being a "newbie" heh Greyjoy?

seriously, if you wish to throw around accusations at the very least take a look at the facts, and don't get blinded by them! it's all there in the charts, a quick glance is all you need...

rdonj · #**265** June 24th, 2010, 01:58 PM

Heh. Take a look at blackguard's join date. I think he's only been playing MP games for like 3 months now? Trust me he is no secret vet. He does spend a lot of time in IRC though.

Nauquan · #**266** June 24th, 2010, 04:12 PM

I think you can expect people to be miffed when you cast burden of time. I am amazed you still take the opportunity to whine about how powerful I am.

Verjigorm · #**267** June 24th, 2010, 06:37 PM

Burden of Time only affects certain things, and forces you to change strategies. It is quite expensive, at 70 death gems which means that the likelihood that you can Dispel it successfully is good. However, if he has a large enough gem income he will just replace it.

The question then becomes, what do I need to do to counter BoT without actually getting rid of the enchantment?

Can I cast Gift of Health?

Can I switch to demons or undead or another long-lived summonable?

Can I make Elixirs of Life or Boots of Youth?

Can I make some Barrels of Air, use spies to locate his caster (probably his pretender) and then destroy him?

If he's using a Master Lich/Lich you have to preach dominion out of his capitol, which adds a lot of overhead to the mission and makes other solutions look better.

BoT doesn't win the game. Everyone ages. Everyone dies--even R'lyeh (eventually... Looking at the chart their crappiest units have 500 years before old age). Even units under the caster's control. Not all nations are affected by it equally It simply shifts you away from recruited units and into summoned ones for the most part with exceptions for some nations.

Solutions by nation...

Abysia has old units, lots of them. Fortunately, they're a blood nation, so they can use boots. Since most of their old mages (Anathemant dragons excepted) come from the capitol, all that is necessary is to keep one blood mage crafting Boots of Youth each turn and all old mages will be protected as soon as they appear. Of course, since Abysians have short life spans, it will be necessary to change over to primarily blood economy earlier if it was planned to milk their strong troops for a longer time.

Hopefully Agartha has been working their strong magic in Enchantment and will be able to start putting up troops and mages made of stone. Death mages have some protection against the ravages of age.

C'tis is a death/nature nation.

Jotes have long lifespans.

Monkeys can summon long-lived mage commanders and sacred units.

Shinuyama has ample supplies of demonic and necromantic units.

Ashdod is quite long-lived as a race. Might put a hurt on some of the Talmai Elders, but... they could probably use a little kick in the rear.

As for me, I only have two provinces remaining and will not survive much longer regardless of the Burden of Time.

Nauquan · #**268** June 24th, 2010, 10:38 PM

It wasn't cast by his pretender. His pretender is currently raiding one of my provences.

BTW. If anyone would like to teleport a team in to take his pretender out, please let me know. I can provide location and list his current items.

Amadamus · #**269** June 24th, 2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd

jee, that was nice Amadamus. this is still a newbie friendly game, I haven't changed that fact. I'm also still relatively newbie, that's not changed either. the only thing that's changed is that I'm playing around with globals, but than everyone can do that, and it takes absolutely no experience nor skill to do it, so I really don't see what all the fuss is about...

funny that you didn't complain when Ashdod was dominating everybody and became huge, nor are you complaining now that our friendly hypocrite Greyjoy has taken C'tis, a rather underwhelming MA nation, and is now the largest nation, even surpassing Ashdod! so much for being a "newbie" heh Greyjoy?

seriously, if you wish to throw around accusations at the very least take a look at the facts, and don't get blinded by them! it's all there in the charts, a quick glance is all you need...

Come Blackguard, you may say your a newb now, but you certainly come across as a know it all. Can't have your cake and eat it too mate.

The point is, you have sat in your own personal lake amassed such a huge quantity of gems, clammed your *** off and now put up a global which effectly craps out the game. How many gems did you put in it eh?

You deserve to get smashed by all nations - but the map doesnt allow for it. So in essence, you have effectively won. The land nations are two busy fighting it out - no possibility of getting a coalition in the ocean and the minute its dispelled you can put it up again! So whats the point continuing?

By the way Verj, blood boots dont help - lost some key warlocks teh rest have ammased a huge amount of afflictions to be useless even waring boots.

My grumble is the whole development of the game, the subtle strategy, the wit, has effetively been rubbed out by one cheesey spell. As i said what a bore. If that counts for a winning move, then good for you - good for any one that uses it - but the spell should be called 'Waist of Time', becasue thats what it presently feels like.

freykin · #**270** June 25th, 2010, 01:17 AM

I'm probably the least affected by this, since I love the lich type pretenders so my god is fairly safe from the effects. That and I can Twiceborn all my oracles to keep them from being a waste of gold. In fact, I probably benefit the most since all my national summons are lifeless, and that's where I'm focusing my efforts on. It is a pain of a spell, though. Just be glad I haven't been able to throw up Utterdark :P.