*** Star Trek Mod Discussion *** - Page 28

jimbob · #**271** September 30th, 2002, 02:54 AM

All links working.

gregebowman · #**272** September 30th, 2002, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimbob:
The Fans of Trek have been attacking in abundance as of late.

Ok, I don't understand this. I'm a Trekkie, but due to pressures of life I haven't been able to absorb Star Trek 24/7 like some people have. I gave up on reading most of the novels because there's no continuity in the Star Trek universe between the books, the comics and the series and the movies. Since the only visual clues we have to what some ship types may look like are from the occassional new model in a movie or an episode, how can anyone claim that some ships are not canon? I can understand Paramount putting some pressure on due to copyright infringements, but I can't understand what I'm reading about these hardcore Trekkies who are apparantly crying "Foul!" if something doesn't match their pre-conceived ideas 100%. Can someone explain this to me?

[ September 30, 2002, 02:06: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

Suicide Junkie · #**273** September 30th, 2002, 02:33 PM

Quite simply, if it did not appear in an official movie or TV episode, it is not Canon.

That makes it very easy to object to almost anything if you feel like complaining.

gregebowman · #**274** September 30th, 2002, 07:32 PM

I can't see why people are making an issue of this. Not all of these ship types have ever been represented in a visual form in either a movie or an episode. How can anyone claim what is canon or not? I'm all for anything Star Trek, and as long as a ship has 2 nacelles and a saucer section, I can't see why anyone would complain. But I know there are always people who are sticklers for the rules, but come on, closing down websites because a few ships aren't canon? That's beyond idiotic, IMHO.

Suicide Junkie · #**275** September 30th, 2002, 09:21 PM

"How can anyone claim what is canon or not?"
- By watching every episode/movie, research, and/or being a trivia junkie

"That's beyond idiotic, IMHO."
- A lot of people would agree with you; probably everybody here.

Captain Kwok · #**276** September 30th, 2002, 10:33 PM

I think people take the show far too seriously. They have to make or find an explanation for every little detail.

For Example:

Klingons have ridges on their forehead...in the original series they did not. In Enterprise they do - and that has angered some fans to the point where they won't watch the show! Even Gene Roddenberry himself said the Klingons were always intended to have the ridges, they just didn't have the money to do it during the first series.

I don't care for any of that crap nor do I need to put big warnings blah blah blah. Especially these Star Fleet Battles people with their official dreadnoughts and crap - umm, dummy - that stuff is not cannon either!

Anyways...thanks for visitng the site often and pushing over the 2500 hit mark. I'm quite impressed...

Captain Kwok · #**277** October 1st, 2002, 02:33 AM

Whoops!

I forgot to mentioned that I won't get a chance to update the site until the weekend because of two poorly placed mid-terms this week. Ugh.

Magnum357 · #**278** October 1st, 2002, 08:30 AM

Hey Captain, I hope you weren't referring to me on that Last comment about SFB people. Ya, I agree that SFB is definitly not Canon, but it is still a good game and has its own history seperate of Star Trek. I have always considered SFB as an alternate Timeline/universe to Star Trek. That is why I don't stress SFB ideas to your mode.

Captain Kwok · #**279** October 1st, 2002, 11:45 AM

No worries Magnum, my comments were directed at those who consider SFB to be the end-all to Kirk-era trek - not just a game.

oleg · #**280** October 1st, 2002, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
I think people take the show far too seriously. They have to make or find an explanation for every little detail.

For Example:

Klingons have ridges on their forehead...in the original series they did not. In Enterprise they do - and that has angered some fans to the point where they won't watch the show! Even Gene Roddenberry himself said the Klingons were always intended to have the ridges, they just didn't have the money to do it during the first series.

I don't care for any of that crap nor do I need to put big warnings blah blah blah. Especially these Star Fleet Battles people with their official dreadnoughts and crap - umm, dummy - that stuff is not cannon either!

Anyways...thanks for visitng the site often and pushing over the 2500 hit mark. I'm quite impressed...

Actually, it is very easy to explain : Klingons were very impressed by bravery and corage of Captain Archer. Human' facial features become quite fashionable among Klingon' braves almost to the point that pLastic surgeons become wealthiest citizens of Klingon Empire. But, as it always happen, even this commendable fashion disappeared after some time.
It also does explain why Worf declined to discuss the issue - it would admit vanity of Klingon warriors !