Bug Bug Thread: Discussion - Page 284

Squirrelloid · #**2831** December 15th, 2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trumanator

Was the commander stealthy? I've had that happen with Skaven a lot. I get defeated, all my troops and commanders dissapear, then reappear the next turn in valid retreat provs.

Not stealthy.

Squirrelloid · #**2832** December 18th, 2009, 08:01 AM

Strange Rlyeh 'bug'?...

If an illithid loses an arm it loses its life drain attack... I thought that involved its tentacles - you know, on its face. How is that a 2-H weapon? Even if it involves the hand, why does it require both of them? Weapon number 63.

(Edi's DB lists it as not a 2H weapon, fwiw, so losing an arm should not cause it to be lost).

Sombre · #**2833** December 18th, 2009, 08:51 AM

The loss of a single arm always removes the default one handed weapon or shield iirc. Whichever is declared first in the unit properties. I haven't tested that though.

Squirrelloid · #**2834** December 18th, 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sombre

The loss of a single arm always removes the default one handed weapon or shield iirc. Whichever is declared first in the unit properties. I haven't tested that though.

Admittedly, I'm used to seeing units that had a weapon and shield lose the arm, and they seem to always lose the shield. One would think that if you lost an arm you would get to keep a one-handed weapon even if you had no shield before. And a weapon that is innate should not be able to be lost as long as you have the means to use it...

I have no idea if shields are always declared first or not.

Sombre · #**2835** December 18th, 2009, 09:16 AM

Yeah I agree it seems like a bug. Perhaps the drain life attack that illithids use should be #bonus as well so they can keep it with armloss or custom weapons.

AreaOfEffect · #**2836** December 18th, 2009, 11:36 AM

That would make the Illithid Soldier unbelievably powerful if each one also got a life drain attack. It would also make the Illithid Lord an amazing thug, even though he's a decent one already.

Squirrelloid · #**2837** December 18th, 2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect

That would make the Illithid Soldier unbelievably powerful if each one also got a life drain attack. It would also make the Illithid Lord an amazing thug, even though he's a decent one already.

Neither of them have a lifedrain attack. No one is proposing adding one to units that don't have one.

Rather, the regular illithids maybe want their lifedrain to be a bonus attack so they don't lose it when they lose an arm. This might give them a punch as well... (oh noes?)

Sombre · #**2838** December 18th, 2009, 12:55 PM

I don't think that would automatically give them a punch. Not sure though.

It wouldn't be a major boon to rlyeh for drain life to be a bonus attack. It's a weapon used by quite a few different monsters and it might be pretty strong on some of them that would like to use two shields or a shield and sword and so on.

rdonj · #**2839** December 18th, 2009, 01:10 PM

It might be a good idea to bring this up in the CBM thread, as the devs seem to be busy with other things at the moment. This is a change that wouldn't be too hard to implement with CBM.

Bananadine · #**2840** December 22nd, 2009, 01:21 AM

Barrier is a tower shield, but it can be used by mounted troops.