The USMC will drive you crazy !!!

[DRG]

I'm sure they have a plan so cunning "you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel"

[Suhiir]

I'm in the process of updating the USMC OOB for 2023 and while creating formations I found myself thinking about an order given to the North Koreans/Chinese during the Korean War (1950-1953).

"Do not attack the First Marine Division. Leave the yellowlegs alone."

Why yellowlegs?
https://m.facebook.com/USMCMuseum/ph...6335298587880/

With weapons disbursed down to the Company level (as was common) a full-strength USMC Rifle Company had the following:

170ish: M1 Garand/M1 Carbine/M1 Thompson SMG
9: BAR
6: 30cal MMG
2: 30cal HMG
2: 50cal HMG
2: Bazooka
1: 75mm Recoilless
3: 60mm Mortar
4: 81mm Mortar (available from Battalion)
2: 4.2in Mortar (available from Battalion)
6: 105mm Howitzer (available from a Battery dedicated to Battalion)

I wouldn't want to attack this either! That's a lot of machineguns and indirect fire support for a "mere" company.

[Suhiir]

In the latest fit of lunacy from Washington DC (i.e. HQ USMC) they're talking about replacing 14 of it's 21 the 155mm batteries with HIMARS MRLs (leaving one (1) tube artillery battery per artillery battalion).

In the past 150 or so years there have been numerous incidents of friendly artillery being called in 100m, sometimes 50m, in front of defensive positions. This will be impossible with MRLs.

So they got rid of the tanks, no more armored close support vs fortified opposition. Now very little tube artillery, essentially no Final Protective Fires when on the defense.

To quote one article by a number of full bird colonels:
"To buy into these reforms, one must conclude that: rockets and missiles can replace cannon artillery and that direct support artillery in the close fight is no longer required. This flawed logic draws the inevitable conclusion that Marine infantry no longer serves in its traditional role: to locate, close with and destroy the enemy in combat."

It seems USMC leadership has been replaced by US Air Force leadership.
Push-button warfare not boots on the ground supported by everything else in the inventory.

[DRG]

Aren't you glad your retired?

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

Aren't you glad your retired?

And even more glad I did so when I did.

[Karagin]

Speaking of the USMC, I just read that they are getting rid of the Scout Snipers.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

For my "MARINE BUDDY" you're NOT going to like some of these fielding dates especially on the AMPHIB side of 2028.

This is the latest and greatest. What we all have to remember is this is the CORPS PLAN 2030 and NOT our Plan 2025/2026 Campaign.

Based on the following, the next update should be around MAY/JUNE timeframe. NOTE this provides for PREVIOUS updates as well.

Covers UNIT formations etc. You get the "full package" in here.

Fear not the "Click"!

Maybe we should leave the FEP's in until DEC 2025 just to piss the CORPS off!?! Alright maybe not!

I don't want a "BEARCAT" appearing in my driveway.
https://www.marines.mil/Force-Design-2030/

Now I'm going to bed for real.

Regards,
Pat


EDIT:
Suhiir,
Pursuant to our PM, I forgot about this system MADIS ...
"Full Operational Capability (FOC) is planned for 2025"

TRACK TRACK TRACK my friend!!
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/d...-system-madis/

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

This is the latest and greatest. What we all have to remember is this is the CORPS PLAN 2030 and NOT our Plan 2025/2026 Campaign.

Suhiir,
Pursuant to our PM, I forgot about this system MADIS ...
"Full Operational Capability (FOC) is planned for 2025"

TRACK TRACK TRACK my friend!!
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/d...-system-madis/

What I've been doing is incorporating changes that ARE being implemented before the 2025 end-date for WinSPMBT and more-or-less ignoring what's planned in 2026 and beyond.

I STRONGLY suspect a good number of the currently planned changes will not be implemented when someone with more common sense then Berger is appointed as Commandant. He's way too focused on a single scenario, the South China Sea, and ignoring every other situation the USMC WILL confront in coming years.

I saw the stuff on the MADIS system but can't think of a way to implement (or in-game need) a dedicated anti-drone system.

One system I do expect to see (partially) implemented before the 2025 drop-dead date is:
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/weapons/IF11831.pdf

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

First the ARV the Marines just received the FIRST Prototype just this past January per your ref. (Second Photo down on the right caption.).

How long for ACV? It might have maybe have reached IOC and according to the ref I dropped last night, no AMPHIBS until 2028

Could be a real issue for us anyway date wise for the both of them.

Concerning the Scout Sniper issue the first is about "creating space" for them by cutting 3 weeks off the Recon Sniper course. Note the dates of these refs.
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/new...sniper-course/

The next in representative of several on the web at this time.
The scout sniper platoons were introduced in 1943 during World War II. "The first steps away from dedicated scout sniper platoons began in 2020, but the Marine Corps this week directed the full transition to happen immediately, Bruce said."
https://www.stripes.com/branches/mar...s-9308951.html

"All three training locations for the grueling 3-month Scout Sniper course at Camp Pendleton, California; Camp Lejeune, North Carolina; and Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia, will stop admitting new students starting in fiscal 2024 (Oct 2023.) , according to the message."

"Precision rifle capability (Designated Marksman.) will remain within the infantry company, and the Marine Corps will continue to maintain school-trained snipers within Marine Reconnaissance and Marine Special Operations units," said service spokesman Capt. Ryan Bruce."

"It's not the first time the Corps has dropped the scout snipers.

The Marine Corps previously canned the program after World War I, World War II and Vietnam, anticipating that future warfare wouldn't require snipers."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-platoons.html

Refs are saying this information was apparently "leaked" before the CORPS could make their official announcement. I guess Capt. Bruce has been tasked to address the issue, must be a PAO.

Back at it later today so Good Night!

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

"It's not the first time the Corps has dropped the scout snipers.

The Marine Corps previously canned the program after World War I, World War II and Vietnam, anticipating that future warfare wouldn't require snipers."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-platoons.html

"future warfare wouldn't require snipers." ??