Coe 3 Aar - Page 3

Doo · #1 January 29th, 2012, 11:13 PM

Poor Ostrogotha!

Is there still chance of victory for the apprentice?

Flop · #2 January 30th, 2012, 06:29 AM

Is there any way to improve the level of the apprentice, so that he can do the same stuff that Ostrogotha could, before he died?

st.patrik · #3 January 30th, 2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Doo

Poor Ostrogotha!

Is there still chance of victory for the apprentice?

Yes, but it's tough to lose your most advanced commander.

This incident highlights a really important and tricky part of the early game: gauging whether or not you are strong enough to take out a group of independents. You start with relatively few units, and so early on you are often playing it closer than you'd like to. It's easy (especially when you're new to the game) to underestimate the strength of a group of independents. If you make that mistake (like Ostrogotha) then it's a big blow.

samoht · #4 January 30th, 2012, 11:40 AM

In CoE2 there were some characters, like the barbarian, where it was hardly even an inconvenience to lose your main commander, whereas losing your Enchanter or Demonologist or whatever could be crippling. Is that still there case? Are there still some main characters that aren't very consequential?

Edi · #5 January 30th, 2012, 06:40 AM

Yes, a ritual of mastery, which is bloody expensive and destroys the coal mine in the process. However, since the next version update breaks savegames, we shall never know if the apprentice would have made itthat far.

Edi · #6 January 30th, 2012, 12:04 PM

Yes, the same is true here as well. Barbarian Leaders are a dime a dozen (baker's dozen at that) and the Senator (even though he is mobile in CoE3) just gets in the way of doing things.

Nobody mourns a politician's demise...

The Senator is interesting in the sense that as long as he has any commanders at all, both of his starting ones (Senator and Centurion) are eminently expendable. As soon as you can recruit a Leo, the Centurion goes from main army commander to troop ferry, since the Leo has leadership bonuses (morale boost) and the Centurion does not.

Baron and Burgmeister can also lose the secondary heroes without much impact, though High Lords are expensive to replace. The main heroes of these classes you don't want to lose because of their combat abilities or army boost abilities.

Doo · #7 January 30th, 2012, 04:45 PM

Well if you can't complete a victory with this game you have to do AAR's until you do. Its in the rules somewhere.....

st.patrik · #8 January 30th, 2012, 08:29 PM

First sign of the enemy. A shambler prince with a spearman and hybrid in tow. And just when I was about to take over my ally’s coal mine!

Gandalf Parker · #9 January 31st, 2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Edi

Yes, the same is true here as well. Barbarian Leaders are a dime a dozen (baker's dozen at that) and the Senator (even though he is mobile in CoE3) just gets in the way of doing things.

Nobody mourns a politician's demise...

On thing I find irritating in CoE3 from an RPGer viewpoint is that at the start of the game I name my commander. And yet, when that commander dies I have not necessarily lost the game. If I name my Senator then I feel rather obligated to protect my Senator even though its rather a worthless piece.

Ive mentioned that I think we should be naming our empires instead of that first expendable leader.

st.patrik · #10 January 31st, 2012, 05:10 PM

I am sad to report that our dear leader Godegisel has been slain. He was foully attacked while minding his own business by our sworn enemy, whose name we now know: the hideous and malignant Snireth Ko. The nation mourns, and frankly what I mean by that is that I mourn, because aside from the terracotta soldier guarding one of the coal mines, I’m the only one left. Not really sure what I should do now…

- excerpt of journal of unknown soldier at the Crystal Tower