OT: Morrowind?

[deccan]

Puke said:
if you put all your resources into being the best mage possible, instead of focusing on combat, it will be MUCH harder.

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i mean, its not really fair to say that a single player game is broken if you abuse it. all you have to do, is NOT ABUSE IT. its like playing the AI in se4. you KNOW when you're cheating at technology trades, and you dont HAVE to offer them empty engineless escorts in exchange for their warships.

I recently bought Morrowind GOTY and tried playing it normally, wanting to make a wood elf archer, but I ended up not being able to resist abusing the system. It's just soooo easy to make a few cantrips and practise casting spells for several days until you become an uber-mage...

Incidentally, anyone want to join me in playing Anarchy Online? It's free now...

[Starhawk]

Yah abusing the system cheapens the gaming experience and ruins it for me so I generally don't cheat/exploit my *** off

[deccan]

I don't have the bandwidth to download the Morrowind speed run, but here's an explanation of how it was done posted by Igor Murashkin in QT3:

Finally watched it!

Synopsis:

Argonian Assassin. Travels using mage guild and amulets.

Steals some armor/weapon, sells it to Kreeper, buys ingredients, goes on to make fortity intelligence potions, quaffs them, and makes more of them...

Now this isn't even funny, his intelligence went up to like 8887 at one point , then he proceeded to make Fortify Health & Strength potions (one potion to fortify both), Boost Speed potions, Levitate potions. Speed is now 456, Luck 412.

..... Then bought some Scroll of Mark in Ald'Ruhn, takes some Levitate potion and flies really really fast to Vemynal. Quaffs the Fortify Strength/Health Potion.. Using a Warhammer of Wounds knocks out Dagoth Vemyn and takes some kind of item (probably Sunder), teleports to red mountain and goes to Odrosal. On the way puts a Mark at Dagoth Ur.

Knocks out Dagoth Odros, takes some key-looking thing and picks up a weapon of some kind (probably Keening), teleports to Dagoth Ur. Anyways, he runs to Dagoth Ur, knocks him up in 2 or 3 hits, runs inside the chamber...

By this time he's got 565/35 health, 7808/7815 mana, 515/515 Fatigue
409 Strength, 7815 Intel, 826 Speed, 783 Luck.

He quaffs a bunch of fortity health potion, then Sunder in his hand goes and uses it in Akulahan's Chamber. Then uses Keening. I believe the mortal wounds would usually kill you, but he had a crazy amount of health and thus didn't even need to wear the Wraithguard. Then he somehow teleports next to Azura (I think she was outside) and waits for a couple of seconds for Dagoth Ur to die , and then the main quest ends with the movie.

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So looks like a pretty thorough bug exploit. You'd think it would be a quick skill run , but instead it exploits the fact while you are in inventory the game is paused and you can quaff as many potions as you want.. one would think Bethesda would've put a limit on how much you could buff your stats, huh? It's pretty stupid IMHO, why are you limited to 100 in stats by default but not limit to getting buffs?

and I thought me getting a glass set as a level 1 was pretty cool.. heh Smile. I hope this guy didn't use the construction set, otherwise it seems like a pretty good culmination of his skills and why Morrowind was so awesome!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

In Oblivion, you will be limited in the number of potions you can quaff. The limit will go up with your alchemy skill.

[Kamog]

Sounds like a pretty good RPG. If I see it on sale, I think I'll buy it and try it out.

[Alneyan]

deccan said:
Incidentally, anyone want to join me in playing Anarchy Online? It's free now...

I suppose free applies to the game itself, and not the monthly fee? I hope so anyway; otherwise, that might remove one of my main ways of avoiding MMORPGs (not having a credit card handy to pay the monthly fees). Must resist... spending my five months... of holidays... playing...

[NullAshton]

It's completly free. They mainly do that to advertise it's expansions. DO NOT RESIST! PLAY IT NOW!

[wake_of_angels]

This is a great game, in which you can do anything you want!
Playing a sorcerer? Create your own spells and magic items!
A warrior? Make potions with many bonus, such as flying, fire wall...

[Alari]

Morrowind is a great game, BUT, unless you are very patient and don't mind frequent lengthy pauses, you're going to want to have a pretty uber computer to play it. On my 950mhz w/512mb it pauses often to load new areas or complex models. The game has one of the WORST loading routines and memory management methods ever, apparently, since other games of similar or better graphical quality and complexity run much more smoothly. I'd say you would want at least a 2ghz or better and 1gb of ram or more to play it smoothly. And even then you'll want to have the Morrowind FPS Optimizer running.

Once you get past that, it's one of the best computer fantasy RPGs I've seen, and definitely one of the most expandable.

I liked Morrowind much more than Daggerfall though. I was constantly annoyed at how Daggerfall had no roads. (Or they didn't show up for me, either way it was annoying.)

[Alneyan]

NullAshton said:
It's completly free. They mainly do that to advertise it's expansions. DO NOT RESIST! PLAY IT NOW!

Hmm, let's see in my random quotes... "Hey, let me know if anyone starts saving up to get an Assassin for you". Or maybe "A shame I cannot kill you without a contract; I would love to take you out free." Both quotes are only approximate though.

Well, thanks for the information. You have now made my life much harder, as I need to raise my Willpower to avoid falling into the pit of MMORPGs. Thankfully, my connection is highly unstable, so that would make playing a MMORPG much harder... then again, I did play MMORPGs back in the days when I was disconnected every 32/33 minutes.