Byblical Mod Discussion ("Moved" from Dom3 forum)

[Agrajag]

Well, it is a rolling r in the sense that it is not the american r (which sounds a lot like a w).
It isn't a rolling r in the sense that it comes from the throat rather then the tongue.

And the language is obviously very different, considering how its roots are completely different: most Europian and American languages come from latin, while Hebrew (and arab langauges) have aramic roots AFAIK.
Its also one of the languages which is written Right To Left, rather than Left To Right.

Useless trivia: writing from right to left encourages the writer to use his left hand to write (because then it is easier to see what you just wrote, your hand isn't getting in the way.). And using your left hand is a sign of dominance of the right hemisphere of the brain (the one in charge of logical thinking [rather than emotional/creative thinking]).
Though even here in Israel the majority is with the right-handers.
I write with my left hand, so that is why I lack creativeness.

As for troops:
Shomer Shayarot = Caravan Guard
S'hir 'Herev = Mercenary ('h is pronounced like the spanish j. I know there's a dutch letter that fits more precisely the right sound, my guess is its also an h, or maybe ch or kh?)
Lo'hem = Warrior
Lo'hem Vatik = Veteran Warrior
Oman 'Herev = Swordmaster
Oman 'Haravot = Swordsmaster
'Ikar/'Havai/'Havay = Farmer (for a militia warrior)
Ro'e Tson = Ship Herder
Tsayad = Hunter
Ya'aran = Forester

That's all I have for names for now, feel free to pick a few up for use as names ^_^

[Morkilus]

Agrajag said:
Well, it is a rolling r in the sense that it is not the american r (which sounds a lot like a w).

Onwy if you awe Ewmew Fudd.

I like where this mod is going... I looked up the "Nephilim" wiki article and there are quite a few inspiring things involved with that mythology. And this gave me an idea for a Mormon mod I might make.... muah hah hah...

[Agrajag]

Morkilus said:

Onwy if you awe Ewmew Fudd.

I like where this mod is going... I looked up the "Nephilim" wiki article and there are quite a few inspiring things involved with that mythology. And this gave me an idea for a Mormon mod I might make.... muah hah hah...

Well, if you compare the way r is pronounced by people from the USA to the way it is pronounced in the Hebrew language (especially by some people), you'll see that the american r sounds much more like a w than our r

As for the nephilim, as far as dom goes, IMO they sound too much like the jotun to be the subject of a mod.

[shovah]

theres alreayd a dom2 nephilim mod iirc.

[Agrajag]

Really?
I didn't know that (obviously), how is it different from just plain old Jotunheim?

[shovah]

it adds fallen angels and the 'jotuns' in it use more supplys me thinks. it also has some of the hybrids (wimpy ones) you get from crossbreeding iirc.

[WraithLord]

Impressing stuff guys.
Keep it going

Just throwing some ideas:
What about the high priests of Israel, the "Kohanim"?
Do you plan on making references to the tribes - Yehuda, binyamin etc.
For unique heroes, you may consider Moses (with mute affliction) and A'haron (I think it is Eron in english) the exodus heroes.
If it were possible to mod national spells it could have been interesting to give them "Kruvim" and "Seraphim" which are angles, guardians of the holy temple and high ranking in the angelic hierarchy.
No cavalry, no spears, no heavy armor so low prot but higher def and mobility.
Consider the siege at "Mesada" I'd give at least some of the troops some of the whatever bonuses possible vs. siege.

[Nerfix]

You'll have to tell more about Kohanim and the tribes if you want to see them. I only remember the Levi who were ordered to become the priests.

On the subject of national spell, I am sure that there could be a ton of interesting summons...I'd really have to read up about angels.

Hmmm, no spears?

I was actually toying with the idea of unit with siege bonus.

[WraithLord]

On the 12 tribes and Kohanim and levyim (pronounced levi'im), as far as my memory goes that is:

There were three fore fathers to the Israelite nation -
Abraham -> Yitzhak (who was to be sacrificed by his father to god as a test of faith) -> Ya'akov (Jacob), whose name means "he who grabs the ankle" - for it was told that he had fought an angle in his dream and won the fight by grabbing at its ankle. So Ya'akov was also called Israel had twelve sons who where the fathers of the twelve tribes

Ya'akov's sons:
Reuben - first born, name means look, son,
Shim'on (Simon) - name means listening,
*** Levi *** - He his the fore father of the priests tribe whose most prominent members were Moses and A'haron. The Kohanim were decndents of A'haron who was the first "Kohen gadol" or high priest. The levites are lesser priests then the Kohanim.
Yehuda (Judah) - his decedents have kept their identity through the millennia - they are today's jews.
The rest are Dan, Naftali, Gad, Asher, Issachar and Zvulun.
Last were Joseph (described as a prophet in the bible) and Benjamin.

Wow, that came out long, now don't got me started on the angles

[Agrajag]

No spears?
As far as I know from bible lessons, spears were used (IIRC the Akravaim from "Avi yser etchem beshotim veani ayaser etchem beakravim" were spearlike)
And Ya'akov grabbed the ankle of Esav when they exited their mother's womb.
As for the tribes, in the bible the different tribes didn't have much of a different identity to emphasize in the game, so I don't see how you can add them (except for maybe the Levi).
Maybe they are mentioned in other sources, but I wouldn't know about that.

And cavalry is an option, IIRC king David had many horses at his disposal. (Though I agree cavalry should be weak, if at all existing, since in most of he stories the Israelites had very little cavalry/horses, and Israel does not have any natural population of horses AFAIK)

BTW, the ancient israelites had the technology to build siege towers, so if you feel like giving them some sort of siege weapon

EDIT: Whoops! Apparently the forum software can't support hebrew. *replaces hebrew with "English"*