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November 26th, 2008, 04:21 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
Sorry on the map. For some reason it looked smaller than mine do.
The problem with Indie strength and Arcos seems to be that if Arcos loses its first army too soon then it falls way behind due to focusing on research (supposedly).
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December 4th, 2008, 11:57 AM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
Is there a way to make the AI player "Impossible" once you turn the control over to AI after shepherding it through a few early turns? As far as I could see it, the only option when you hand over control is "Average."
It would obviously boost the AI performance a lot if you can make the AI "Impossible" after you give it a good foundation playing it yourself.
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November 26th, 2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
I use BI w/ both and haven't had any problems. The resource-only version worked okay too, but apparently the AI makes suboptimal purchasing decisions in that case.
Note that you *can* set AI difficult/attitude when using a modded AI, if by "modded" you mean "modified using map or mod commands." What you can't do is generate the pretender *using the in-game GUI* and start the game as a human, then set to AI. What you can do is generate the pretender as part of a custom map scenario (modify the map you're going to play) and set it to AI from the very beginning. Note that you can make the AI pretender pretty much arbitrarily powerful in that case, too, and/or give him some starting items or SC companions. For instance, you could let each AI nation start out with 1 Ophan commander. (Ashdod national summons.)
Oh, yeah, I suspect setting research to Easy might be a good idea. The AI doesn't really seem to target its research very well, unlike a human, so if you set it to Easy research there's a slightly higher chance of the AI having the right spells it needs for a given situation. (Whereas a human will just compensate for harder research by beelining for the most important spells.)
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December 1st, 2008, 12:01 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
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Originally Posted by MaxWilson
I use BI w/ both and haven't had any problems. The resource-only version worked okay too, but apparently the AI makes suboptimal purchasing decisions in that case.
Note that you *can* set AI difficult/attitude when using a modded AI, if by "modded" you mean "modified using map or mod commands." What you can't do is generate the pretender *using the in-game GUI* and start the game as a human, then set to AI. What you can do is generate the pretender as part of a custom map scenario (modify the map you're going to play) and set it to AI from the very beginning. Note that you can make the AI pretender pretty much arbitrarily powerful in that case, too, and/or give him some starting items or SC companions. For instance, you could let each AI nation start out with 1 Ophan commander. (Ashdod national summons.)
Oh, yeah, I suspect setting research to Easy might be a good idea. The AI doesn't really seem to target its research very well, unlike a human, so if you set it to Easy research there's a slightly higher chance of the AI having the right spells it needs for a given situation. (Whereas a human will just compensate for harder research by beelining for the most important spells.)
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Thanks! Ive tried to find a guide on how to mod my map with AI types and difficulty but cannot seem to find this. Any tips?
Which AI type makes a more competitive SP play?
Aggressive, Defensive, or Normal?
Also does the CBM mod improve SP AI play?
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November 26th, 2008, 05:36 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
iceboy:
Unfortunately game does not work in SP on big maps. The thing getting out of control will happen, no matter what settings you use. And lowering gold and resources hurts AI [especially when you add higher indies].
If your goal is to improve their early game I'd suggest just adding some starting units to the map file. If you want to give them melee SC you should use #clearmagic, so he goes to melee instead of casting stupid spells.
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November 26th, 2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
Since this is all for single-player, you could have Easy or Normal research and take Drain 3 for your nation. -2 RP for each of your mages will slow down YOUR research by quite a lot, but of course it depends on your nation.
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December 1st, 2008, 12:35 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
Take a look at the SemiRand program. Except for some slight things (such as adding @ for a random sign) its files are just text files that get added to a .map file
The files available with SR provide examples of programming provinces with logical names, populations, defenses, magic sites, etc. Such as, what should be there if a province is named Village of Weres. It also has examples of using map commands to provide logically built gods and scales. So that the god/scales for Pangaea make sense and are different than the one for Mictlan, or Ermor, or Ulm.
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December 1st, 2008, 12:39 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
By "which makes for more competitive SP play" do you mean in the vanilla mode? Or which can make best use of map-added changes?
And I dont know about CBM. I never use it in solo play, and rarely in mp if I can avoid it.
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December 1st, 2008, 12:47 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker
By "which makes for more competitive SP play" do you mean in the vanilla mode? Or which can make best use of map-added changes?
And I dont know about CBM. I never use it in solo play, and rarely in mp if I can avoid it.
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Vanilla...
Thanks I will look at the semi rand to find examples of modding ai difficulty and personality types modding!
hmmm I could not find this in semi rand could you point out in more detail?
Is there a list of all the modding commands anywhere?
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December 1st, 2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: Brain Dead AI Nations
Yes, check the "docs" subdirectory of your Dom3 installation for modding and mapping PDFs. Edi has created an update for modding (Age of Unreason, if I recall correctly) that you can find on the forums too. Edi's version has a few more commands documented, and you can also check the progress page ( http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dom3progress.html) for stuff that isn't documented anywhere yet because it's so new. Usually it's pretty easy to guess what the new commands do.
Example mod command: make Bashanites have str 30
#selectmonster 2010
#str 30
#end
(I happen to know what the Bashanite unit number is because I frequently add them as test opponents in battles using Shift + 'U', but if you need to learn a unit's number you can check Edi's database or else select the unit and click Ctrl + 'I'. Or maybe it's Shift + 'I', I can't remember.)
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