APC Development and related topics.

[DRG]

My my but that "black Eagle" certainly has long legs. Did you note the information that the companys been bankrupt since 2002 ?? It was one of the first "what if's" we put in and it's now been removed from every OOB that had it and a good reason why we don't add things like this any longer.

Don

[Imp]

Due to your posts stopped looking at APCs etc but protection seems to have come a long way certainly on current crop of IFVs.
There was the story of the warrior driver that extracted a squad with wounded I think & took over half a dozen RPG hits doing it. Current testing policy seems to be fire 2 RPG7s at it to prove armours ability to take multiple hits. Okay its an old RPG but someting has happened here I would call that good protection.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

IMP and others,
You then might find this article interesting as an example of where we're heading:
http://www.defense-update.com/produc...ps_291009.html
Survivability is turned into a big market area and I think this is why we're not seeing much in advancement of new models in MBTs, it's cheaper to tech up, gun up and increase protection on existing equipment. This is allowing for instance British MOD to plan for a service life increase of the WARRIOR until 2030. The M-60 with the packages available as I've posted for consideration for Don already, are looking at service life extensions of 15 to 20 more years. All this tech allows everyone to stay in the game longer especially during these economic times.
Pat

[Imp]

Well thats a novel idea got to hit it with machine guns just a fraction before fire the RPG tricky, should send warhead designers off for a rethink.
Slightly off topic I see US modified Phalanx ship missile defence system for ground use, recalibrated to intercept incoming mortar rounds, would assume cant cover much of an area.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Lesson learned, identify your best sources and use and stick to them first. Recently a request for info was put out there and I used what I consider a "secondary" source of the ones I use for the sake of expediency over my two best ones. Will not happen again (I hope!), stay true to what you know. Reviewed
http://www.army-technology.com/ and everything was there for most of what was submitted by me. I feel like Mr. Toyoda. Not looking for any bridges (OR ANYTHING ELSE.) unless you want to buy one, just needed to vent. Besides the AI has changed it's tactics and I've some thinking to do to pull this out and avoid a draw! Working to retake the Kuriles! That source might help as "checker". Can you "copy" (normally "cut") from the net and then paste it here?
Good Night!
Regards,
Pat

[JohnAbrams21]

I believe that General Dynamics has won the "scout" portion of the FRES contract with the ASCOD II.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...57&c=EUR&s=TOP

Report: General Dynamics Wins U.K. Scout Contract
AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Published: 13 Mar 2010 14:51
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LONDON - American firm General Dynamics is the winner over BAE Systems in the race to build a new generation of armored reconnaissance vehicles for the British Army, The Financial Times reported March 13.
A March 13 report said that General Dynamics has been selected to build 750 next-generation armored reconnaissance vehicles for the British Army. Above, an image of the proposed vehicle. (COURTESY OF GENERAL DYNAMICS UK)

The contract for scout variant of the British Army's Future Rapid Effects System vehicles is worth more than 1 billion pounds ($1.5 billion, 1.1 billion euros), the newspaper said.
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British defence equipment minister Quentin Davies will name General Dynamics as the preferred bidder in the deal to build an initial 750 vehicles, The Financial Times said.

General Dynamics' ASCOD 2 was in a head-to-head fight with BAE Systems' CV-90 MkIII.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

JohnAbrams21,
Seems as though we have a little controversy here!?! Yours was dated the 13th, mine the 18th this will require some digging into!! Thank you for the response! And I really liked the CV90 too!
Regards,
Pat
P.S.
Imp any insights from across the pond!!

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

London Times reports the following on the 16th, could be a "leak":
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle7063234.ece
Regards,
Pat
P.S.
God help me, my wife will kill me if I can't get up in 4hrs. to drive to Macon, GA. for the annual Cherry Blossom Fest. with the family in caravan. Can anyone offer asylum out there?!?
GOOD NIGHT and have a GREAT WEEKEND!!!
Pat

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by Imp

Well thats a novel idea got to hit it with machine guns just a fraction before fire the RPG tricky, should send warhead designers off for a rethink.
Slightly off topic I see US modified Phalanx ship missile defence system for ground use, recalibrated to intercept incoming mortar rounds, would assume cant cover much of an area.

IIRC the chinese have something similar in operational service: a phalanx/goalkeeper style gun mounted on a truck with the associated systems. It is however meant to provide a last layer of defense against PGMs for high value targets (an important bridge or whatever), which is probably the only cost effective use for such a weapon most of the time. By cost I don't mean just the financial cost but all the associated issues that come with it. All that DU/tungsten etc you are putting in the air is going to come down somewhere and you don't want to have anyone there when that happens, not to mention making sure that one of the damn things doesn't lock on the helicopter of the general who's coming for an inspection...
Building mortar proof bunkers isn't that problematic, penetration against hardened targets is low.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Don't want to stray too far off the ranch here but, I have heard someone else was involved and or interested in the CTCA 40mm to be used in the British MOD WARRIOR SV and FRES programs. With that said I'll simply leave you with "viva le France!" and this article:
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_1612.html

Good Night!
Regards,
Pat