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August 24th, 2021, 04:19 PM
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Re: obat26 Afghanistan
From another site:
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Whilst it has long being known that ~85 billion dollars of military materials were left behind there has been limited info as to the exact nature. Its should be noted part of that figure is for sustainment of Afghan forces funded through the Afghanistan Security Forces Fund.
This is in part summarized in GAO-17-667R (which has been deleted from the Governments web site); but can be recovered in google cache:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&ct=clnk&gl=us
162,643 pieces of communications equipment - inc:
75,256 VHF radios e.g. Datron PRC-1070/1777 and HH7700
66,439 non tactical radios e.g. Motorola GM360, CODAN NGT SRx, AR-8200
13,464 HF radios - e.g. Codan 2110 manpack, Datron RT-7000
5,777 multiband raios - e.g. Harris RF5800M and RF-7850
2,107 ulta and super HF radios e.g. - Harris RF-7800W and Johnson APCO-25
75,898 military vehicles - inc:
42,604 light tactical vehicles -cargo trucks pick ups - Ford Rangers
22,174 Humvees - ambulance, cargo, troop enclosure and gun truck variants
8,998 MTVs - MTV international, 5 ton cargo and general transport trucks
1,005 recovery vehicles - Navistar 7000MV and M1249 wrecker
928 MRAPs - MRAP maxxpro, anbulance and combat variants
189 APCs - M113A2 and M577A2
599,690 Weapons inc:
358,530 rifles - M16, M4, AK47 Dragunov sniper rifle
126,295 pistols - M9 and G19
64,363 machine guns - M249, M240, RPK and NSV(12.7mm)
25,327 grenade launchers - M203 and GP-25/30
12,692 shot guns - M500, M590a1 and M870
9,877 RPG - RPG-7 and SPG-9
2,606 indirect fire weapons - 60mm mortar, 82mm mortar and D-30 122mm howitzers
29,681 EOD
13,265 ECMs - Symphony and Pipper
13,367 mine detectors - VMH3CS and CMD
1,093 combat robots
1,101 EOD suits
496 mine rollers
359x-ray systems - RTR4-L
16,191 pieces of surveillance and reconnaissance equipment
16,035 NODS inc PVS14, PVS7, ANVIS-6 and ANVIS-9
120 radio monitoring systems - wolfhounds
22 ground based towers - Aerostat IDT
8 scan eagles
6 surveillance ballons - Aerostat
208 Aircraft
110 helicopters - inc Mi17, MD-530
60 transport aircraft - C208, C182, C130, T182, G222, AN32
20 Light attack planes - A29
18 intelligence, reconnaissance and surveillance planes - PC12
(with full weapons systems and munitions)
UH60 were part of the forward looking program for ANDSF - the number delivered (if any is unclear)
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August 27th, 2021, 10:37 PM
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Re: obat26 Afghanistan
Would like to add that a majority of the larger equipment left with the ANA was beat up and nearing the end of useful service. A possible exception were the A-29s but even they won't last without maintenance.
The same is true for most of the contractor equipment, a lot of it was hand-me-downs. The Embassy had the least worn kit but not much of it.
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August 28th, 2021, 07:36 AM
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Re: obat26 Afghanistan
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Originally Posted by whdonnelly
Would like to add that a majority of the larger equipment left with the ANA was beat up and nearing the end of useful service. A possible exception were the A-29s but even they won't last without maintenance.
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Planes are most certainly deadlined soon; but a lot of the smaller stuff (and ground stuff) can be redneck engineered; and this version of the taliban has set up their own Special Forces units:
A.) Badr 313 --- named after the battle of Badr, where Mohammed had 313 men.
B.) Red Unit (Sara Kheta) -- per Wiki:
The Red Unit, which numbered approximately 300 by 2016, reportedly employs commando tactics and is equipped with "advanced weaponry", including night vision equipment, heavy machine guns and M4 carbines.[10][11] Members have been seen during photo ops to be carrying Icom IC-V8 VHF radios.[12] They are known to be especially proficient in night combat, and considered to be better trained and equipped than most Afghan National Army soldiers.[7]
Though generally called the Taliban's special forces[1] or commandos,[3] analysts have argued that the Red Unit was probably not performing traditional special operations missions, but were, instead, being used as shock troops or a rapid deployment force.[2][8][13] Moving on motorcycles, the unit often raids isolated outposts, destroying the local defences, and then retreating before other forces can respond.[7] The Red Unit often spearheads Taliban offensives,[14] as it has proven to be very effective in combat. Nevertheless, its equipment and training are inferior to those of Western special forces
So expect those:
162,000~ pieces of communications equipment
16,000~ pieces of Night Vision Equipment
to be used in expanding Badr 313/Red Unit to larger formation sizes in the short term; and in the long term, being cannibalized for spares -- and they have enough to keep it going for a while.
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August 28th, 2021, 08:31 AM
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Re: obat26 Afghanistan
Having worked with the Afghani Army I doubt very much if they will still have much of anything left up and running in a month to six months. They could not or would not understand that engines need maintenance.
All the small arms are going to do is allow them to arm more men, but the ammo is not compatible with the majority of what they have. Going to be interesting to see what they cobble together in their village forges to keep the M16s etc...supplied with ammo.
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August 29th, 2021, 04:57 AM
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Re: obat26 Afghanistan
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43500299
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Russia 'arming the Afghan Taliban', says US ( 2018 )
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..... and the convoluted Irony of that is staggering
" the enemy of my enemy is my friend ( even if they used to be my enemy..)
5.56 ammo will not be hard to acquire methinks. It's used worldwide. Keeping the engines maintained is another issue
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September 26th, 2021, 09:00 AM
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Re: obat26 Afghanistan
Final version of additions to Afganistan OOB
That is all what I collected about afgan army
New vehicles and units are after unit 662 with their lbm's representing vehicles in Afgan service
Pictures represents:
Pm29900.lbm to 29915.lbm Afgan armoured vehicles and guns
Pm29916.lbm to 29924.lbm ANA special forces Commandos
Pm29925l.bm to 29969.lbm Airforce
29970 to 29982 various variants of Ford Ranger
29983 to 30001 various variants of HMMWV
30004&30002 BMP-1 afgan service
29800 ANA ford ranger with HMG
29801 Taliban ford ranger with ZSU-23
29802 to 29806 ANA soliders with various guns
29807 to 29824 Taliban fighters with various weapons usually AK with RPG-7
29826 to 29831 Afgan army truck and amphibs
So what we have here armoured vehicles:
-Disston 6t
-Renault M17 FT
-SU-76M
-CV-35
-Universal carier
-IP Carrier
-BMP-(Gun) (with zis-3)
-BMP-(ZU) (with ZSU-23)
-Citroen-Kegresse M23
-Lancia 1ZM
-T-34/85 (also covering their use during soviet intervention)
Soviet trucks:
-ZiS 6x6
-GAZ-66
-ZiL 6x6 (ZU-23)
-ZiL 6x6
-Kraz-214
American trucks:
-FMTV Truck
-2&1/2 Ton Truck
Amphib vehicles:
-GAZ-46
-BAV-485 6x6
-K-61
Utility vehicles:
-UAZ Jeep
-Dodge WC51
- 107mm Type 63 from Chine early 70's
Various armed versions of:
-Ford Ranger
-HMMWV
ANA infantery units with varius weapons gear which were sold to Afganistan last 20 years
-Polish wz.96 Beryl
-Canadian C7A1
-USA M16A2
-Russian AK47 & AK74
- 155mm M114 guns
- BTR-80 sold to pro soviet goverment in 1989 and stil in inventory of ANA and american M113A2
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October 2nd, 2021, 03:01 PM
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Re: obat26 Afghanistan
The October issue of AirForces magazine has an article on the Afghan Air Force just before and during the collapse. I don't know how useful this information will be but I thought I would post it.
Quoting from a June 30th report by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction the operational strength of the Afghan A.F., excluding aircraft not in country was:
23 A-29B Super Tucano
10 AC-208B Eliminators
23 Cessna 208B Grand Caravans
3 C-130H Hercules
33 Mi-8/17 Hips
43 MD530F Cayuse Warriors
33 UH-60A+ Black Hawks
22 fixed wing aircraft and 24 helicopters, types not specified, were reportedly flown to Uzbekistan. 1 UH-60A+ is reported to have crashed in Uzbekistan when it ran out of fuel and 1 A-29B was destroyed when it collided with an Uzbek A.F. Mig-29.
About 40 operational fixed wing and helicopters are believed to have been captured by the Taliban, including 2 Mi-8/17s, 5 to 7 MD530Fs, at least 1 A-29B and an unknown number of AC-208Bs.
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