Suggestions - Page 3

Lord Kodos · #21 July 20th, 2002, 11:25 PM

id pay for it.Im sure hes going to release a demo of some sort before charging.I mean cmon its ten dollers and i dont think its for the actual material but to cover the cost of the CD,the S&H,postage,and maybe a doller or two for the actual work he did.I mean i feel either its we pay for it on CD or we pay to download it from a site due to the excessive bandwith costs...i prefer the cd.I mean god its 5-10 dollers what else this good can you buy for that?other then a whole bunch of slurpees from 7-11 and Jhonen vasquez comics i cant think of much.Besides im sure if someone offered to host it on their site,or rather give him the money for the bandwith that he would say yes.Besides cmon people its 5-10 dollers even if the mod somehow stunk to the high hevens(it doesent) youd have only lost ten dollers max...considering that i would surely pay..I dont know about them but hadrian when it comes out you have at least one customer...

Fyron · #22 July 20th, 2002, 11:47 PM

Shipping 2 CDs might cost $2. The CDs themselves cost at most 20 cents, and maybe 50 cents for printed labels. $10 is way more than charging just the basic costs.

jimbob · #23 July 21st, 2002, 12:01 AM

Whoa hey!

Enough already. If the guy gets permission, then MM must think it's up to snuff, and they obviously think it's acceptable to charge money. If you think he's charging too much, don't buy it. Likewise if you think it's wrong.
I personally think we could use Shrapnel's bandwidth for something better than arguing over this though.

Fyron · #24 July 21st, 2002, 12:15 AM

I have had no intention to buy it.

disabled · #25 July 21st, 2002, 12:59 AM

I think if MM says it's good enough to sell, then it's good enough to buy.

[ June 16, 2003, 02:33: Message edited by: General Talashar ]

Fyron · #26 July 21st, 2002, 01:05 AM

Hadrian, it doesn't matter how good of a mod it is. It is the principal of the thing. Mods are supposed to be freely available to all, not charged for. I am sure that it will be a good mod. But that does not justify selling it for profit, regardless of whether MM and Shrapnel approve of you doing so or not.

If UM2 was available for a free download, I would most certainly download it and try it out. Even if I was on dial-up. Heck, I downloaded at least 100 ship sets and a bunch of mods like a year ago when I was using a dial up modem and a free ISP. Large downloads are not really a problem. And if bandwidth is an issue on SE.org, I am sure that there would be people willing to let you use their web space provided by their ISPs for hosting UM2.

[ July 21, 2002, 00:08: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Pax · #27 July 21st, 2002, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Hadrian, it doesn't matter how good of a mod it is. It is the principal of the thing. Mods are supposed to be freely available to all, not charged for. I am sure that it will be a good mod. But that does not justify selling it for profit, regardless of whether MM and Shrapnel approve of you doing so or not.

Am I the only one that noted the "profits" from Hadrian selling his new mod would go towards maintianing SE.org?

Does the community not value SE.org as a resource ... ? Is desirign to make the hobby at least pay for itself such a horrible thing?

I don't see a problem here. Fyron, and the other objectors: if you don't want to pay for it, don't buy it ... that doesn't mean you should attack the -concept- of it being for sale. After all, what does it cost YOU, if say I decide it's worth the $10 to buy the CD ... ?

Answer: absolutely nothing.

So, where's your ***** with him selling it ... ?

Schwarzbart · #28 July 21st, 2002, 01:40 AM

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I dunno about that. UM 1 wasn't very impressive.

Yes this is truh and if I look at the great mods that are out there I dont think there will be many customer for a Mod that you must buy. The next problem is how will thius mod spread to outside of USA? The Import cost and the Transfert cost for SEIV non Gold was more then the cost of the the game it self so I wont ever consider to get the CDs.

Fyron · #29 July 21st, 2002, 01:48 AM

Pax, reread my Posts if you don't see my point.

Personally, I have never seen a use for SE.org. Every time I go there recently, it is being changed to a new layout and 90% of the links are broken or lead to empty pages. It used to have stuff to download, but hasn't for a long time.

Edit: Ok, I spoke too soon. It does have a little content now.

[ July 21, 2002, 00:54: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

geoschmo · #30 July 21st, 2002, 02:00 AM

Guys, Let's try to get this thread back on track. Your opinions have been made pretty clear on both sides. This is running close to turning into a personal argument. If you don't have any comments directly to the point of Hadrians question, he is the one who started the thread afterall, perhaps you should just keep them to yourself.

I will repost Hadrians original question here for those that don't wish to scroll down and reread it.

Geoschmo

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Originally posted by Hadrian Tyrael S. Aventine:
For many, I know you are all more than fed-up with the Ultimate Mod II being delayed to the point where I rarely comment on it's release date.

What I wanted to know is if you guys had ideas to speed this up. I currently have the Idea to release it in smaller sets like the Star Systems in one, maybe a racial tech tree here, some facilities there and so on, then when I get done, wrap them all up and fire them off into one big CD collection.

Now what won't be given out this route is the Omega Directive Campaigns, Multiplayer Maps - All 200 of them, the special websites, the movies, and possibly the music (gotta make it sound good before).

When it's done, I will put it all together in once kick-*** mod on one CD and on the other CD will be the music.

I'm also considering putting in promotional stuff for my other projects and maybe a few progs I've written.

Any thoughts?