Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide - Page 3

RC4 · #21 October 5th, 2020, 10:15 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW-F...ature=emb_logo

RC4 · #22 October 5th, 2020, 10:28 AM

Aeraaa · #23 October 5th, 2020, 05:46 PM

One thing is for sure, Azeris use montage a lot in their released videos. Which tells something.

MarkSheppard · #24 October 5th, 2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeraaa

One thing is for sure, Azeris use montage a lot in their released videos. Which tells something.

They're basically doing "Desert Storm" -- we only get to see the stuff that hits, not the stuff that dies on the way down, hits the wrong target, etc.

Karagin · #25 October 5th, 2020, 07:14 PM

Makes sense.

Aeraaa · #26 October 6th, 2020, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

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Originally Posted by Aeraaa

One thing is for sure, Azeris use montage a lot in their released videos. Which tells something.

They're basically doing "Desert Storm" -- we only get to see the stuff that hits, not the stuff that dies on the way down, hits the wrong target, etc.

Problem is, most of the time we don't even see the kills. The video switches on another footage the moment the explosion occurs. How can we judge if the hit was actually a kill?

That is why I'm telling it's highly suspicious.

DRG · #27 October 6th, 2020, 07:47 AM

What's reported and what is shown has, and always will be, what whoever is reporting it or showing it wants you to see.

"There are lies, damn lies and Statistics"......add to that video footage and reporting bias add to that the advances in CGI and EVERYTHING is potentially "fake news"

MarkSheppard · #28 October 6th, 2020, 08:59 PM

Another thing to consider is that apparently the Azeris stopped showing these things for about a day or so (don't know if they resumed them yet).

Speculation on the cessation of drone videos is:

1.) They ran out of them temporarily -- plausible; especially since Canada slapped export bans onto a digital camera made in Canada that's used in some drones.

2.) Bad Weather prevented drones from being used -- also plausible; since you're not going to put a very nice camera on an expendable drone.

MarkSheppard · #29 October 6th, 2020, 09:03 PM

Armenian T-72A captured by Azeris:

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Captured Armenian T-72B and T-72AV tanks:

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Destroyed Azeri T-90:

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US Related news and commentary related to this conflict

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US Army killing it's Asymmetric Warfare Group

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For nearly 15 years a little known but highly influential Army group has been in the middle of how the Army learns immediate lessons from combat, adapts to the evolving battlefield and saves soldiers' lives.

It’s called Asymmetric Warfare Group, and the Army is shutting it down next year.

The Army made its official announcement today that by mid-2021, AWG will be discontinued.

An Army statement to Army Times:

“The functions of AWG, including the solutions to current and emerging threats, will transition to other Army organizations. Also, to ensure the utility of the organization’s work over the past 14 years is not lost, all lessons learned will be maintained by the U.S. Army Combined Arms Center (CAC), via the Center for Army Lessons Learned (CALL), Centers of Excellence (COEs), and other TRADOC enterprise stakeholders.”

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General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS), a business unit of General Dynamics, was awarded a $1.219 billion contract to produce, test and deliver Interim Maneuver Short-Range Air Defense (IM-SHORAD) systems to the U.S. Army. The Army’s initial order on the contract calls for 28 Stryker IM-SHORAD vehicles for $230 million.

The Stryker A1 IM-SHORAD provides short-range air defense against unmanned aerial systems and fixed-wing and rotary-wing threats. Its armament includes Longbow Hellfire missiles, Stinger missiles and a 30mm cannon.

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From 2018, the initial selection:

LINK

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WASHINGTON — The U.S. Army’s interim short-range air defense system, which will urgently fill a capability gap identified a few years ago in the European theater, has crystallized.

The Army had already decided the Interim Maneuver-Short-Range Air Defense system would be developed around its Stryker combat vehicle, but it has now chosen Leonardo DRS to supply a mission equipment package that will include Raytheon’s Stinger vehicle missile launcher, according to Col. Chuck Worshim, program manager for cruise missile defense systems with the Army’s Program Executive Office Missiles and Space, who spoke to Defense News on June 28.

RC4 · #30 October 8th, 2020, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

Armenian T-72A captured by Azeris:

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Captured Armenian T-72B and T-72AV tanks:

------------

Destroyed Azeri T-90:

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US Related news and commentary related to this conflict

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US Army killing it's Asymmetric Warfare Group

Quote:

For nearly 15 years a little known but highly influential Army group has been in the middle of how the Army learns immediate lessons from combat, adapts to the evolving battlefield and saves soldiers' lives.

It’s called Asymmetric Warfare Group, and the Army is shutting it down next year.

The Army made its official announcement today that by mid-2021, AWG will be discontinued.

An Army statement to Army Times:

“The functions of AWG, including the solutions to current and emerging threats, will transition to other Army organizations. Also, to ensure the utility of the organization’s work over the past 14 years is not lost, all lessons learned will be maintained by the U.S. Army Combined Arms Center (CAC), via the Center for Army Lessons Learned (CALL), Centers of Excellence (COEs), and other TRADOC enterprise stakeholders.”

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General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS), a business unit of General Dynamics, was awarded a $1.219 billion contract to produce, test and deliver Interim Maneuver Short-Range Air Defense (IM-SHORAD) systems to the U.S. Army. The Army’s initial order on the contract calls for 28 Stryker IM-SHORAD vehicles for $230 million.

The Stryker A1 IM-SHORAD provides short-range air defense against unmanned aerial systems and fixed-wing and rotary-wing threats. Its armament includes Longbow Hellfire missiles, Stinger missiles and a 30mm cannon.

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From 2018, the initial selection:

LINK

Quote:

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Army’s interim short-range air defense system, which will urgently fill a capability gap identified a few years ago in the European theater, has crystallized.

The Army had already decided the Interim Maneuver-Short-Range Air Defense system would be developed around its Stryker combat vehicle, but it has now chosen Leonardo DRS to supply a mission equipment package that will include Raytheon’s Stinger vehicle missile launcher, according to Col. Chuck Worshim, program manager for cruise missile defense systems with the Army’s Program Executive Office Missiles and Space, who spoke to Defense News on June 28.

The link below is a good analisys of the losses
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2020/0...-karabakh.html