Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War - Page 3

narf poit chez BOOM · #21 May 18th, 2004, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by rextorres:
Phoenix - you are going to have to do better than that - there were relatives of the hijackers that were being arrested simply because they were relatives. The Bin Ladins, on the other hand, who might have had knowledge of Osama's whereabouts were allowed to leave the country without even any questioning - sure sounds fishy to me.

Atrocities - It's common knowledge. Also - Clinton is no longer President don't know why you keep bringing him up. If anything I would compare Bush to Nixon but I won't go there.

It's not common knowledge. I never heard that before.

tesco samoa · #22 May 18th, 2004, 09:11 PM

actually it is common knowledge. There has been news reports on this over the Last few years.

Well I thought it was common knowledge. Maybe it is not.

The family left on Sept 12th and 13th. From cities in the USA and flew to Boston. 1 week later they left the country. The Saudie Govn't asked for help on this. The FBI and the American Govn't agreed.
Just because your related does not mean your involved.

So a half truth. Used by Moore to further his train of thought in the movie.

tesco samoa · #23 May 18th, 2004, 09:13 PM

P.S. his family 'disowned' Bin Ladin publically many years before.

Fyron · #24 May 18th, 2004, 09:30 PM

freduk, I put to you that the majority of people in your nation are just as stupid as the majority of people in the US. The majority of ALL human beings are idiots. It does not matter what nation they live in. Propaganda is used effectively by leaders of all nations, not just those of the US.

Expecting truths from Micheal Moore is more insane than expecting truths from Bush...

tesco samoa · #25 May 18th, 2004, 10:13 PM

Fyron.... Freduk was having some fun. Leave it at that.

Sinapus · #26 May 19th, 2004, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Freduk was just having some fun hence the

I was not offened.... I may have offended person next to me when i laughed.

That wasn't the remark I was referring to.

It was: "But it could have some impact on the avarage American, as retardation seems to be the standard there, believing everything GW Bush and CNN proclaim." No

or similar.

I guess I should have also noted that freduk needs to get his agitprop correct: the people who don't believe Bush is the ultimate evil are supposed to be blind followers of FoxNews and not CNN. Or is it Drudge?

tesco samoa · #27 May 19th, 2004, 12:23 AM

Missed that one...

Atrocities · #28 May 19th, 2004, 12:27 AM

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Atrocities - It's common knowledge. Also - Clinton is no longer President don't know why you keep bringing him up. If anything I would compare Bush to Nixon but I won't go there.

You might compare Bush to Nixon, but I would never do such a thing. Clinton was no JFK, and Bush is not Nixon. Besides, if Nixon had not resigned from office who knows how the pull out from Vietnam would have gone. Chance are, and this is backed up by many scollors, that the pull out would have been far better than what we ended up with.

Iraq is not Vietnam so like I said, you can compare Bush to Nixon, I won't.

And for the record, the situation we are now in is far more Clintons fault than it will ever be Bush, or Bush Sr's.

Fyron · #29 May 19th, 2004, 12:44 AM

Nixon had already pulled most of the US troops out of Vietnam before he resigned...

Atrocities · #30 May 19th, 2004, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Nixon had already pulled most of the US troops out of Vietnam before he resigned...

Yes, but the north may not have invaded if Nixon had not resigned.

Many historical scollors have stated this repeatedly. I first heard about it when I was in HS and later in that uber borning mini-series NIXON.

We will never know what could have been, only what has been.