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Old November 21st, 2006, 01:18 AM

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Thanks, Graeme!

That totally sucks though. So I suppose high MR is the only (uncertain) antidote?
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Old November 21st, 2006, 05:17 AM

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I don't think Returning/Ritual of Returning will pull you out of vengeance of the dead, at least they shouldn't, but maybe they will anyway.

The worst thing about Vengeance of the Dead is the fatigue. The individual units are weak and easy to kill if you have any sort of weapon. But if your commander is not encumbrance 0 (and most that can be affected by VotD aren't) he may get exhausted and become unable to fight.

MR is the best protection against VotD, but even there the chances are not perfect, since it is only "MR negates" and not "MR negates easily."

The most common targets for this sort of spell are non-undead pretenders and mages. Occasionally a living thug will get hit by it. Mages don't really stand a chance. Fortunately, mages and pretenders have good MR, and frequently resist the spell.
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Old November 21st, 2006, 08:57 AM
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Seems like we have two different scenarios here:

1. supercombatant (hero, pretender, etc.), characterized by high hitpoints and the ability to dish it and take it.
2. mages (rainbow pretender, great sage, archmage, etc.), who can dish it out, but they can't take it.

I believe there are a number of good strategies for a supercombatant to take. However, mages are in for a beating unless they are lucky--and plan carefully....
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Old November 22nd, 2006, 01:15 AM

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VotD isn't that bad. Regular mage can often survive just by using fire shield, astral shield body ethereal and personal luck. Even when he falls unconcious he can avoid being hit while destroying enemies.
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Old November 22nd, 2006, 01:26 PM

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Actually vengance of the dead can be survived simply by having decent MR.
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Old November 22nd, 2006, 06:49 PM
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I was still talking about anti-Horror strategies.... VOTD is pretty easy to survive, usually.
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