OT: I know how to solve global warming

[Atrocities]

Suicide Junkie said:
Cutting forests dosen't help, but the billions of tons of hydrocarbons we dig and pump out of the ground to burn is the big thing.

I don't recall where I read or even heard this, but it was speculated that we are causing the planets core and mantel to heat up by drilling and removing such things as natural gas, oil, and methane. ????? I don't see how this would matter, but thought I would post the info any ways in hopes that someone may have more info.

[Starhawk]

I do admit I get a kick out of people saying mankind will be long extinct as if it will happen some time in the next few years or something.

No offense people but Mankind has been believing it will go extinct within the next few years or few decades or yadda yadda. Yeah for the first time in our history that we KNOW of mankind is capable of making it's self go extinct on a massive scale but for the most part MOST humans are to smart to do anything to completely exterminate ourselves....except for the Iranians who seem to want to bring an end to the world but if they even TRY it iran will be the only glowing crater in this world.

Now if we can get our collective heads together and start working on a space program for the entire civilized world (mideast/africa are not likely to get anywhere) we can easily set up colonies on Mars, Luna, and several of Titan's moons from what I've read not to mention Io.

Yeah they'd be harsh places to live for a while but so was every colony man has ever established even on Earth.


Then again if you listen to some very interesting theories that I've heard Mankind did not originate on Earth at all but are likely the survivors of a colony from God knows where.

Heck I've even heard people use this as an explanation FOR evolution (i.e the reason there is no missing link is because our ancestors had nothing to do with the previous "species" of man but instead were transplanted here.)

[Phoenix-D]

Starhawk said:
I do admit I get a kick out of people saying mankind will be long extinct as if it will happen some time in the next few years or something.

I think I'm the only person that's made that reference, and it was refering to the time when the earth's geological activity stops.

In order for us to be around at that point we'd have to survive longer than ANY species in the history of the entire planet. I don't see that as likely.

[Wade]

Our desendants will be around then but just not in our current form. Maybe if these "Grays" are real (probably not) then they are us traveling back in time to study their primitive ancestors; the same as biologists today travel and study our way. Maybe the Earth in their time is not the same or even none existant.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

AngleWyrm said:
An article that summarizes global temperature changes, from 1977 to 2002.

That chart is marked in .1 of a degree. Not exactly a large change.

[Raapys]

It doesn't take all that much to start melting the poles, though, and the temperature doesn't appear to stop rising anytime soon.

[Suicide Junkie]

Averaged over an entire planet, that's a lot.

[Will]

While it can be argued many ways with carbon dioxide, if it has a significant impact on warming, or insignificant, or even no impact, the cutting of forests does have some impact (at least locally; it would be harder to prove global impact). If you have a large area of trees, they are taking the incoming energy to convert to sugars, and reflecting some back out, but there is little re-radiation as heat. If you have clear-cut land, there is no conversion of energy to create sugars, and a lot more is re-radiated as heat. You can see the effects of things like this by watching a local weather report; temperatures inside a city will consistently be higher than surrounding areas, because all the concrete and non-green land area is turning sunlight into more heat energy than there would be in more "natural" settings.

[Renegade 13]

It also affects weather patterns. For example, as I mentioned below, my area has a hundreds of thousands of acres of dead trees. This has changed our weather in a few ways. For example, we no longer get thunderstorms. Up until even a few years ago, we got thunderstorms all the time. I blame this on the dead trees. Think about it; when you have millions of live trees around, on hot days a whole lot of water will evaporate from these trees, helping to create thunderstorms on hot days. When you have dead trees, the water is instead absorbed deeper underground, and less water is evaporated on hot days, since there isn't as much as easily available. Result: no thunderstorms. At least, that's my theory.

[AngleWyrm]

Thunderstorms...Florida has a whole lot of thunder storms, and they say it's because it's a sand bar that tosses up wet salty silicon dust into the air.