Death Bless and Seeking Arrow

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Epaminondas

How do you reliably kill extremely well-equipped SCs on the battlefield? Is a comparable SC or a group of thugs the only counter?

No, thugs can reliably be killed by magic. Many flavors, or even troops, if they are designed to exploit the thugs weaknesses.

SC's are a whole different ball of wax. Spell spamming again depending on the weakness of the sc.

could be as simple as skellys (amazing how often that works) charm, Opposition, Magic Duel....Gift of Heaven...

[Gregstrom]

For SC's... Gifts from Heaven, Banefire, Drain Life all work well if heavily spammed. For a couple of SCs with no backup, try Stellar Cascades from dozens of mages. Banish to Inferno/Claws of Cocytos must be favourites.

[Illuminated One]

How does poison damage work with a death bless?
Say you've got a death blessed mage casting breath of the dragon.
Would the affliction chance be calculated when the poison is applied or whenever the poisoned units looses hps in the rounds after?

[Gregstrom]

I believe that afflictions are only rolled on loss of HP. As I don't think you cause loss of HP when the poison is applied, there wouldn't be any chance of affliction at that point. I'm not sure if poison damage traces the unit who inflicted the poison, so I wouldn't like to say there was any increased chance of affliction from that particular spell.

[JimMorrison]

Every time the unit takes damage, it can gain an affliction - so yes, the chance is small but comes every time the poison ticks. However, as Gregstrom said, I don't think it is known whether or not the origin of the poison is checked.

I'm not going to be surprised if it is though. For example, I've been doing a lot of reanimation of soulless, and over multiple turns, it remembers whether each corpse is well geared or not.


And anyway Sombre, that's the point. Against late game SCs, you aren't worrying about the 2 damage so much. Just as with an F9 bless - you are NOT doing fire damage to most SCs, as if they don't have FR, they have way too much armor. However, the Death affliction bonus is NOT negated by MR. They only have to hit.....

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

And anyway Sombre, that's the point. Against late game SCs, you aren't worrying about the 2 damage so much. Just as with an F9 bless - you are NOT doing fire damage to most SCs, as if they don't have FR, they have way too much armor. However, the Death affliction bonus is NOT negated by MR. They only have to hit.....

And do damage. I think this is possible because critical hits are broken somehow, but in terms of pure theory hitting and doing damage is not going to be easy and will require many sacreds, which is quite an investment.


Poison definitely works with death bless. I have tested and confirmed this. Poison spells and poison arrows. Both are extremely nasty with death bless.

[Gregstrom]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

And anyway Sombre, that's the point. Against late game SCs, you aren't worrying about the 2 damage so much. Just as with an F9 bless - you are NOT doing fire damage to most SCs, as if they don't have FR, they have way too much armor. However, the Death affliction bonus is NOT negated by MR. They only have to hit.....

Well, they have to damage - and that can be pretty tough against an SC. The 2AN+MR helps a little, because even a shield hit will force a MR save - and with enough attacks coming in, that might be 1 or 2 wounds per fight from the AN damage.

[chrispedersen]

Yes, death definitely affects poison. Sauromatia's hydras nasty in them selves deal death and afflictions like mad with even so little as a D4 bless.

[Gregstrom]

That's very interesting to know.

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Sombre

And do damage. I think this is possible because critical hits are broken somehow, but in terms of pure theory hitting and doing damage is not going to be easy and will require many sacreds, which is quite an investment.

That's why the point is, that the D9 is best with a nation that has low cast recruitable anywhere sacreds, or cheaply summoned ones, AND has sacred mages.