OT: US President (US Dom Players only)

[Omnirizon]

Originally Posted by Ironhawk

Note to Mods: Please do not move this thread! I dont care about shrapnel players as a whole, I just want to know what dominions players think.

If you are a US citizen who is capable of voting, I'm curious to know how you are going to vote for in the upcoming presidential elections. I think it will be really interesting to see the pattern of the dominions community.

you should have put "US citizen who is allowed to vote". Just being allowed to vote doesn't make one capable of voting, and being capable of voting doesn't allow one to vote.

[Ironhawk]

Wow, licker, get down off the soapbox.

The two party system doesnt have anything to do with money or power or whatever. It has to do with having ONE powerful position to fill. If there were multiple positions, a la the senate and the house, then you have freedom to make more interesting choices. If there is only one tho, then you must organize into the largest possible aggregate body in order to have an impact. Its as simple as that.

[Epaminondas]

I am not a fan of either McCain or Obama, but Obama really makes me retch and puke. He seems to me the classic politico with no settled principles, willing to do anything to get elected. Ironically, he's a lot like his arch-nemeses, the Clintons, in that respect.

[Meursy]

lol! :P

(high fives Spendios)

[Ironhawk]

LOL nice, spendios

[Micah]

I was for Nader in 2000, and man, did I learn that lesson. As much as the "they're all the same" rhetoric sounds nice, and even has a lot of truth to it, there's a pretty big difference between the parties, since I don't recall 8 years of wanting to flee the country before Bush was elected.

Voting for a third party is a wasted vote on a national election (though locally they can and do win, which is awesome). If you really want to get some change started and make 3rd parties a viable reality instant-runoff voting seems like a pretty damn good place to start, not shooting for the white house. If people can't even organize enough to get what's a pretty common-sense approach to voting to be enacted I can't imagine actually getting a nuanced 3rd party candidate choice voted into office.

That being said, I think a proportional representation system would be even better, but let's start small, shall we?

[Tichy]

Two words, guys. Judicial appointments.



As one commentator (can't remember who) put it about Obama: "It'll be nice to have a president who has read the Federalist Papers."

[DonCorazon]

I realize arguing politics is pretty hopeless since nobody ever changes their mind. I will just say that any chance that I might vote for McCain vanished when he picked Palin as VP. The thought of her as president is terrifying and IMHO reflect very poorly on McCain's judgment. Obama is smart and was against the Iraq war when it wasn't cool to be which I think reflects well on his character and intellect. For me the choice is easy and I think a vote for McCain is irresponsible because it puts the presidency one heart attack away from Palin.

[Lingchih]

Gee, this is starting to look like a landslide. I hope the general election goes the same way.

I already voted (for Obama). Unfortunately, I live in Texas, so that was a thrown away vote essentially.

[otthegreat]

I'm curious about what some of our friends outside of the US (i.e other dominions players) think about the two party system. I agree with what seems to be the general opinion here that it needs some work.

One thing I like about Vermont is that campaigns run on a very limited budget so third parties are better represented. In fact the republican candidate for senate last election spent much more money and ran the first real attack adds we've seen in the state. I was very happy when the whole scheme backfired and the independent won handily (admittedly no democrat was running).