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Old January 15th, 2021, 06:13 PM
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The other issue that needs to be considered is the number of slots available in formations.

Sometimes you find you have to cut or combine small units (i.e. two MG teams combined into a 2-gun section) or something similar.

3x 10-man rifle squads + 3x 2-man sapper sections is 6 of the 10 available slots, this only leaves 4 for MGs or AT weapons or whatever.
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OK thanks. I will take a look at all this tomorrow
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All in now. The only change I made was to the unitclass of the AT teams. Now UC212.

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Just d'like to add description what are WOT units and why the were created for game if you retain slots files are named correctly. In every txt file is the same text.
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All in now. The only change I made was to the unit class of the AT teams. Now UC212.
Just do like to mention that Javelin ver.F was today [17 June 2021] first time used by WOT on proving ground. Poland ordered FGM-148F JAVELIN in number of 180 launchers for WOT.

Here article and also photo of WOT soldiers with Javelin
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Just prepared new icon for Krab

But I must explain long story of AHS Krab self-propelled artillery

Firs polish government buy license for build AS-90 towers from UK in 1999 then "Huta Stalowa Wola" build UPG-NG chassis for that tower in 2001. UPG-NG is build on modified SUM-Kalina minelayer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPG_Kalina In 2001 first prototype was build and until 2011 three prototypes were build only. Around 2010 BAE Systems stop to build Gun barrels for AS90 so for next series 8 vehicles build in 2011 French Nexter 52 155mm guns were chosen. In 2014-2016 16 vehicles were build and barrels were again changed this time to Rhainmetal build on license in HSW. In 2015 because problems with UPG-NG chasis cracks. Chassis from South Korean K9 Thunder were chosen and since then full scale production starts with K9PL chassis build in Poland and that is now main version of Krab 155mmm. So as you see Krab is like a military Lego set tower from UK chasis domestic then from South Korea and gun British then French then German and Polish equipmment inside etc.

Early small scale production chassis UPG-NG Krab after 2016 this earlier variant chassis were scraped and towers put on K9 so became K9PL


K9PL Krab variant build after 2016 with Rheinmetal 155mm gun now main production variant of Krab



As for now OOB represent this small scale production UPG-NG and icon also
which only 16 were build. So I d'like propose after 2016 this new version K9PL Krab which is now build 72 vehicles and full contract is for 120
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Just FYI I am not interested in "what-if" projects or training aircraft for MBT so feel free to post it but I'm not interested for the master game unless they were actually used by active units
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Hope that this will be usefully I made a lot of new icons for aircrafts Su-17/20/22 to cover swep wings ability like in F-14 for attack with two different speeds. Yak-11 because is direct descadent of Yak piston fighters meaby used for training but also usefully as coin aircraft. Iryda,Bies,Grot mentioned earlier polish coin aircrafts. Whole familly of Yak-12& Wilga AOP so no more Cesna and Piper Cub capitalistic icons in Warsaw Pact country's. Orlik is also there modern polish light trainer and COIN atacker. When I repainted Alenia Aermacchi M-346 I found thatYak-130 is exactly the same aircraft with slight differences so he was also redone with corect camo's. And best is on the end Agricultural machinery pesant's aircraft's Kruk, Dromader & Belphengor to be used in forgoten wars as fly technicals. You may laught from this slow rural aircraft's but as I read they have secound darker usage than cropsdusting which is not covered by game. Agricultural aircraft were intended to be used as a doomsday devices in case of full total Word War. Simple in the same way like pesticites the can spray poisonous chemicals
and deadly plages from military labs. In Poland are rumor's that in 1970's M-15 Belphengor which was radiculus from economical point of view (jet cropduster) was build with this secound role in mind as [Ultima ratio regum]

I also add OOb with covers export of Polish (Mig) Lim to different coutry's. Usage of An-2 (which is also agricutural) in different fogotten wars from vietnam to Bosnia. As ersatz bomber
but also as simple Gunship. Here I also d'like to propose Po-2 with one gun as primitive gunship. I read many stories that during fight with post AK underground in Poland Po-2 was used to spot and attack them continosly so I supouse that this was typical usage in internal wars in Estern Europe and Asia especially against week oppostion and internal enemies of comunistic states. Propably this role meaby after 1960 was taken by An-2 proposed in this oob also as erzatz gunship. There is also M346 for Poland and Israel and Mi6 which I know was only in small number in Poland exactly 3 pices but will be nice to have hevy helicopter I found great photo of this helicopter. There is also TS-11 Iskra icons alredy in game which was a trainer but also basic coin attacker with different variants of weapons for Poland and India. Iryda iskra replacemnt which wasn't only prototype but in small number was in use in 90's in polish army and also orlik which is trainer but also small coin attacker in three variants, also all variants of Yak-12 AOP I know there is no space for this small aircrafts in rusian OOB but may fit to Red OOB to represets their evolution of utility aviation. Cropdusters if you found them usefully may find thir way to red or green OOB to represents this makeshift bombers used on small wars.


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{19101, -1}, //8483 Su-17M2/20/22 wings in slow flight postion (silver)
{19102, -1}, //8484 Su-17 soviet wings in fast flight postion (silver)
{19103, -1}, //8485 Su-17 soviet wings in fast flight postion (green-brown-sand camo)
{19104, -1}, //8486 Su-17M2 SEAD with Kh-25 soviet wings in slow flight postion with (green-brown-sand camo)
{19105, -1}, //8487 Su-17M2 SEAD with Kh-25 soviet wings in fast flight postion with (green-brown-sand camo)
{19106, -1}, //8488 Su-17M2 bombs soviet wings in fast flight postion (green-brown-sand camo)
{19107, -1}, //8489 Su-22 unguided rockets wings in slow flight postion (green-black-red brick camo)
{19108, -1}, //8490 Su-22 SEAD with Kh-25 rockets wings in fast flight postion with (green-black-red brick camo)
{19109, -1}, //8491 Su-22 bombs wings in slow flight postion (green-brown-red brick camo)
{19110, -1}, //8492 Su-22 SEAD with Kh-25 rockets bombs wings in fast flight postion (green-brown-red brick camo)
{19111, -1}, //8493 Su-22 SEAD with Kh-25 rockets wings in slow flight postion (green-brown-desert camo)
{19112, -1}, //8494 Su-22 with bombs wings in fast flight postion (green-brown-desert camo)
{19113, -1}, //8495 Su-22 Czechoslovakia with bombs wings in slow flight postion (green-brown camo)
{19114, -1}, //8496 Su-22 Czechoslovakia SEAD with Kh-25 rockets wings in slow flight postion (green-brown camo)
{19115, -1}, //8497 Su-22 Czechoslovakia SEAD with Kh-25 rockets wings in fast flight postion (green-brown camo)
{19116, -1}, //8498 Su-22 DDR with bombs wings in fast flight postion (green-brown-sand camo)
{19117, -1}, //8499 Su-22 Luftwaffe after german unification in slow flight postion (green-brown-sand camo)
{19118, -1}, //8500 Su-22 Poland after 2012 SEAD with Kh-25 rockets wings in slow flight postion (greay-blue-gray camo)
{19119, -1}, //8501 Su-22 Poland after 2012 with bombs wings in fast flight postion (greay-blue-gray camo)
{19120, -1}, //8502 Yak-11 (silver)
{19121, -1}, //8503 Yak-11 (green)
{19122, -1}, //8504 Yak-11 (desert)
{19123, -1}, //8505 Yak-11 (desert-brown)
{19124, -1}, //8506 Yak-11 Soviet (silver)
{19125, -1}, //8507 Yak-11 Soviet (green)
{19126, -1}, //8508 Yak-11 North-Korea (silver)
{19127, -1}, //8509 Yak-11 North-Korea improvised ground atack (green)
{19128, -1}, //8510 Yak-11 Polish (silver)
{19129, -1}, //8511 Yak-11 North-Vietnam (green)
{19130, -1}, //8512 Yak-11 China PRC (silver)
{19131, -1}, //8513 Yak-11 Czechoslovakia (silver)
{19132, -1}, //8514 Yak-11 Eastern Germany DDR (silver)
{19133, -1}, //8515 Yak-11 Austria (silver)
{19134, -1}, //8516 Yak-11 Algeria (desert)
{19135, -1}, //8517 Yak-11 Egypt (silver)
{19136, -1}, //8518 Yak-11 Egypt (desert-brown)
{19137, -1}, //8519 Yak-11 Yemen (desert-green)
{19138, -1}, //8520 PZL I-22 Iryda Polish (grey)
{19139, -1}, //8521 PZL I-22 Iryda Polish (grey-green-desert camo)
{19140, -1}, //8522 TS-8 Bies Polish (silver)
{19141, -1}, //8523 TS-8 Bies Indonesia (silver)
{19142, -1}, //8524 TS-16A Grot (polish x-plane from 60's hypersonic fighter-bomber)
{19143, -1}, //8525 TS-16B Grot (polish x-plane from 60's hypersonic trainer-fighter bomber)
{19144, -1}, //8526 LWD Junak (green)
{19145, -1}, //8527 Yak-10 soviet (green)
{19146, -1}, //8528 Yak-12 (green)
{19147, -1}, //8529 Yak-12 (desert)
{19148, -1}, //8530 Yak-12 (silver)
{19149, -1}, //8531 Yak-12 soviet (green)
{19150, -1}, //8532 Shenyang type 5 [licensed Yak-12] China PRC (green)
{19151, -1}, //8533 Yak-12A (silver)
{19152, -1}, //8534 Yak-12A (green)
{19153, -1}, //8535 Yak-12A (desert)
{19154, -1}, //8536 Yak-12M (green)
{19155, -1}, //8537 Yak-12M (desert)
{19156, -1}, //8538 Yak-12M (silver)
{19157, -1}, //8539 Yak-12M soviet (green)
{19158, -1}, //8540 PZL-101 Gawron (green)
{19159, -1}, //8541 PZL-101 Gawron (desert)
{19160, -1}, //8542 PZL-104 Wilga (green)
{19161, -1}, //8543 PZL-104 Wilga (desert)
{19162, -1}, //8544 PZL-104 Wilga (silver)
{19163, -1}, //8545 PZL-104 Wilga (green-white winter)
{19164, -1}, //8546 PZL-104 Wilga (green-dark green camo Polish)
{19165, -1}, //8547 PZL-104 Wilga (grey Polish)
{19166, -1}, //8548 PZL-104 Gelatik (jungle camo Indonesia license build)
{19167, -1}, //8549 PZL-104 Wilga (desert-green Egypt)
{19168, -1}, //8550 PZL-104 Wilga (grey-green Yugoslavia before civil war)
{19169, -1}, //8551 PZL-104 Wilga (green-dark brown-sand Republika Srpska Air Force of the fraction in Bosnian civil war)
{19170, -1}, //8552 PZL-104 Wilga (Hungary Peoples Republic)
{19171, -1}, //8553 PZL-104 Wilga (Polish Border Guard)
{19172, -1}, //8554 PZL-104 Wilga (Estonian)
{19173, -1}, //8555 PZL-104 Wilga (Latvian)
{19174, -1}, //8556 PZL-104 Wilga (Lithuanian)
{19175, -1}, //8557 PZL-104 Wilga (Moldova)
{19176, -1}, //8558 PZL-130 Orlik
{19177, -1}, //8559 PZL-130TB Orlik (Polish gray before 2012)
{19178, -1}, //8560 PZL-130TC Orlik (Polish gray after 2012)
{19179, -1}, //8561 PZL-130TC-2 Orlik (Polish gray-light gray)
{19180, -1}, //8562 Alenia Aermacchi M-346
{19181, -1}, //8563 Alenia Aermacchi M-346 (Italy)
{19182, -1}, //8564 Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Lavi (Israel)
{19183, -1}, //8565 Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Bielik (Poland)
{19184, -1}, //8566 Yak-130 (dark grey)
{19185, -1}, //8567 Yak-130 (green)
{19186, -1}, //8568 Yak-130 (desert)
{19187, -1}, //8569 Yak-130 (Rusian gray-blue-dark blue camo)
{19188, -1}, //8570 Yak-130 (Algerian desert-brown camo)
{19189, -1}, //8571 Yak-130 (Belorusian green-dark green-grey camo)
{19190, -1}, //8572 Yak-130 (Laos green-desert-bright green camo)
{19191, -1}, //8573 Yak-130 (Bangladesh grey-dark grey camo)
{19192, -1}, //8574 PZL-106 Kruk (agritractor livery)
{19193, -1}, //8575 PZL-106 Turbo Kruk (agritractor livery)
{19194, -1}, //8576 PZL M-18 Dromader (agritractor livery)
{19195, -1}, //8577 PZL M-18 Dromader (sand-brown-green Croatia ersatz bomber war in yougoslavia)
{19196, -1}, //8578 PZL M-15 Belphengor (agritractor green camo)
{19197, -1}, //8579 PZL-230 Skorpion (polish x-plane from 90's cheap small battle support plane)
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There are photos of Leopard 2PL on their first field deploy by army on Training Ground in Orzysz Feb 2021 in nice winter Camo. Is possible that this is actually an standard winter painting for all polish tanks.




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https://www.defence24.pl/leopardy-2p...w-orzyszu-foto
https://radioolsztyn.pl/leopardy-na-...ojowy/01555752


And here polish tanks from WW2 t-34 on Pomerania Wall 1945 and Topas 50's/60's use quite similar pattern so not so many changes since WW2

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Just on the beginning of this Year Leopard 2PL was introduced into units and start to be used. But Polish industry prepared new modernized variant called Leopard 2PLM1


here what is modernised according to this source https://thedeaddistrict.blogspot.com...e-leopard.html
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Additionally, the Leopard 2PL MI version includes: implementation PIX function, introduction function selection the last or first echo the laser range, introduction automatic system extinguishing fire fighting in compartment APU, Introduction system cold start to the engine without restart electronics devices, micro charging battery in battle tank during storage, electronics compartment active cooling, preparation electrical installation for identification Friend or Foe.
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