Soy Bad?

[DavidG]

Originally posted by TerranC:
To DavidG:

On the fact that I am alive, healthy, and that none of my vital organs have suffered some kind of shock.

Not exactly a scientific study. Actually sounds a lot like the logic some people used to use to prove smoking is not unhealthy.

After reading a few more articles on Soy I'm not about to change my eating habits to avoid it. But I think I would avoid giving it to an infant or taking it in massive quantities.

[spoon]

Originally posted by TerranC:
I'm quite virile thank you very much.

I want proof. This comment just sounds like a vehicle for your (black) book.

[TerranC]

Originally posted by spoon:

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Originally posted by TerranC:
I'm quite virile thank you very much.

I want proof. This comment just sounds like a vehicle for your (black) book.

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I'd rather not show you people proof, and I am quite sure that none of you would rather see my proof.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by TerranC:
Fyron, as an east asian, I've been eating soy all my life, and if there is one thing I can tell you about soy or soy-derived products is that Soy is anything but poisonous.

yeah, but aren't all east asians short?

[TerranC]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
yeah, but aren't all east asians short?

What's that supposed to mean NPCM?

[ March 06, 2004, 23:05: Message edited by: TerranC ]

[se5a]

I might point out that that artical did say that less procesed soy products (like tofu etc) are not as bad as other soy products.

[David E. Gervais]

I tried a soy product once and didn't like it, I won't make that mistake again. The same thing goes for Tofu, yuk! When I want something with little to no taste, I'll take mushrooms any day.

Cheers!

[Wardad]

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:
I tried a soy product once and didn't like it, I won't make that mistake again. The same thing goes for Tofu, yuk! When I want something with little to no taste, I'll take mushrooms any day.

Cheers!

or Potatoes

[ March 07, 2004, 20:37: Message edited by: Wardad ]

[Baron Munchausen]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

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Originally posted by TerranC:
Fyron, as an east asian, I've been eating soy all my life, and if there is one thing I can tell you about soy or soy-derived products is that Soy is anything but poisonous.

yeah, but aren't all east asians short?

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Not 'all', just the ones who eat the traditional diet of mostly rice. And it's the rice that stunts them. There is an enzyme in it that inhibits the absorption of iron and the lack of iron slows their growth down. When they come to the US and start eating like Americans they get taller (and unfortunately also get the same diet-related diseases as other Americans... )

[Baron Munchausen]

From a project page on genetic alteration of rice to improve third-world nutrition:

http://dragon.zoo.utoronto.ca/~J02T0101A/nutrition.htm

Iron rich rice could be on its way very shortly. Researchers are focusing on three different transgenes to solve the iron deficiency problem (11).

* Gene encoding the phytase enzyme that breaks down phytate; a molecule that prevents absorption of the ingested iron by binding to iron in the gut.
* Gene encoding for a cysteine rich protein which helps iron absorption in the gut.
* Gene encoding the protein ferritin that stores iron in the rice grains.

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Apparently 'phytate' is present in most or all of the grains that people eat, but either the phytate content of rice is very high or it's harder to properly seperate the phytate from the rest of the grain (milling to remove the husk) because iron deficiency is a big problem in the regions of the world where rice is eaten as the bulk of the diet. Yet vegetarians elsewhere in the world who live only on grains & vegetables don't (necessarily) have iron deficiency problems. So it's not necessarily lack of meat that leads to iron deficiency.

[ March 09, 2004, 05:18: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]