Okay first off I'm a boy from the USA so to the God Damn the USA line I have a big UP YOURS!!! from the USA jerkoff....especially because if you weren't free your dumbass would be in jail for bashing your government.
NOW on to the Civil Disobedience bit there, face it Anti-War Protesters fall under civil disobedience because they are usually a royal pain in the *** that block streets and generally cause a headache wherever they go with all their "Sadam wasn't so bad" and "Bin Laden's a Nice Guy....REALLY" crap so don't even get me started on making it sound like the American Government is a FACIST party sort of deal.....especially because I DON'T LIKE THE GREEN PARY
BTW AMERICA IS NOT A FRIGGIN DEMOCRACY look up your history we are a Republic which means "LIMITED POWER TO THE PEOPLE!" you know why? Because unlike Athens where a voice for every man and a man for every voice we have a population of over 300 MILLION (and that's just the legal ones) so a true democracy where eveyone gets to do what they want would be anarchy.....and Civil Disobedience has to be shut down SOMEWHERE especially because those dumb greenparty and Libertarians WANTED TO BE ARRESTED and I'm sure we are only getting their "We are so martyrs!" side of this story.
Oh and under most state laws CROSSING A POLICE LINE IS ILLEGAL! no matter who you are and so they deserved to get their arses busted for that dumb move......so don't even make them sound like poor little angels who were jumped by the Government SS troopers (Stormtroopers were friggin soldiers ELITE GERMAN soldiers who stormed Trenches during WWI so please stop referring to every facist like police force as stormtroopers as they would be closer to the "Gaurd" branch of the SS and NOT even the Wauffin (Field corps) SS)
Anywhoo Gandalf my boy to your little quote
"Which was also the claim of England, and Russia, and even Germany in its heyday. Of course, it depends on your concept of liberation. Now people are trying to liberate countries from the US. Crossing another nations borders to liberate them can be a dangerous concept if not done carefully."
England was trying to "civilize" the world NOT liberate it, the countries they conquered they occupied and established as tax paying provinces (AND DON'T EVEN CLAIM THE US HAS PROVINCES OR I WILL BEAT YOU WITH A STICK
) and not simply trade partners.
Germany! fah they were trying to "liberate" their "Aryan brothers" not impoverished countries run by dictators who were responsible for OVER A MILLION DEATHS in the course of their reign many tens of thousands of which being at the hands of said dictators secret police force (and their sons who just decided to rape women for the hell of it).
Why the HECK does a country like the US trying to free these people get treated like it's doing something wrong, maybe those big bad European powers should show more concern for the world outside their borders as well and start HELPING rid the world of dictators for a change. WHY THE HECK does getting rid of a freakin dictator now a days become a BAD THING. think about a world with no dictators? Wouldn't that be great.....
And RUSSIA "liberating" their neighbors from rival empires was land grabbing that's all, they too occupied said nations and turned them into paying provinces with no independant government or anything of that sort.
Now moving onto your remark on those terrorist scum crossing the borders to "liberate" Iraq from the US LIBERATION IS NOT THEIR INTENT! they simply want to kill as man servants of "The Great Satan" as they can else wise they would actually try to defeat the army and not just kill women children and their own "Islamic brothers" without discression....that is not LIBERATION by ANY definition.....
Sorry for any spelling errors but I had a total of 3 hours of sleep Last night and political BS like this pisses me off when people don't bother trying to get a second viewpoint into the picture.
YES America has it's flaws but we are also the Strongest, and I have to say most FREE nation on earth and people need to learn to appreciate that freedom and that greatness and their heritage with respect and not try to make our government sound like a damned fascist state.
HELL we have MORE rights then our American ancestors I meam look at the "civil rights" of everyone during the Civil War era....sorry that wasn't that good as only the elites could afford to vote on anything.....anyway I'm too tired to say anything else....sorry for the excessive cussing but I DON'T LIKE MY COUNTRY being bashed....especially by people who don't friggin live here like you limeys in the group
Edited for unnecessary rudeness