.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 01:18 AM
Puke's Avatar

Puke Puke is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: california
Posts: 2,961
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Puke is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

Quote:
Imperator Fyron said:
No weapon arcs.


the sample data files posted on MMs web site seem to suggest that there are weapon arcs.
__________________
...the green, sticky spawn of the stars
(with apologies to H.P.L.)
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 01:28 AM
Kamog's Avatar

Kamog Kamog is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,903
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Kamog is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

I agree with Puke, this stuff looks like firing arcs:

Code:
 Firing Point Arcs
315 0 45
\|/
270 -+- 90
/|\
225 180 135


Code:
Firing Point 1 X                                     := 112.319191
Firing Point 1 Y := 413.506592
Firing Point 1 Z := 27.873138
Firing Point 1 Arc Start := 315
Firing Point 1 Arc End := 45

Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 07:28 AM
Noble713's Avatar

Noble713 Noble713 is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Garden-Variety State
Posts: 356
Thanks: 5
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Noble713 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

In another thread it was mentioned that Fire Arcs only affect graphics, not actual gameplay, which seems really odd to me. Why put all the effort in to only half-implement a feature? Maybe we'll see it incorporated into SE5: Gold, if not sooner.
__________________
Hail Caesar!

L+ GdY $? Fr! C- SdS T!+ Sf+ Tcp A% M++ MpM R!- Pw+ Fq-- Nd-- RP+ G++
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 07:28 AM
Captain Kwok's Avatar

Captain Kwok Captain Kwok is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 5,623
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Captain Kwok is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

For animations yes, but there are not firing arcs as there was in Star Fury.
__________________
Space Empires Depot | SE:V Balance Mod
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 07:41 AM
Mephisto's Avatar

Mephisto Mephisto is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Posts: 1,994
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mephisto is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

Trust us, there are no firing arcs in SE5.
__________________
For, in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's futures. And we are all mortal. - JFK
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 07:42 AM
Mephisto's Avatar

Mephisto Mephisto is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Posts: 1,994
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mephisto is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

That's a fair statement.

Quote:
Q said:
My concern is the ship design: if it works like in starfury, which is what the screenshots indicate, then it could be very time consuming to create the many designs you need in a typical space empires game. And I am not convinced that the directional damage is worth this effort, especially if you cannot control the exact ship movements in strategic combat.
__________________
For, in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's futures. And we are all mortal. - JFK
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 09:44 AM
Xrati's Avatar

Xrati Xrati is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Outter Glazbox
Posts: 760
Thanks: 12
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Xrati is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

Instead of making 20kt fighters, why not make a 'fighter mount' to put whatever you need on a fighter. I've played with fighter mounts and found that they increase the usefulness of a fighter, but still present you with the fact that they are supplemental firpower and not a fully functional ship. This way you can limit what weapons and system you can put on them by mount specifications.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 10:54 AM

RonGianti RonGianti is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 120
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
RonGianti is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

I would LOVE to find out that an all fighter strategy is valid in SEV, instead of the limited usefulness in SEIV. You could use them in 4, but only in the very early game, then point defense V chewed threw them like "a hot knife through butta'"
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 12:22 PM
Puke's Avatar

Puke Puke is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: california
Posts: 2,961
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Puke is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

sooo... looking at the fireing arc thing, the six firing points dont correspond with any of the slots on the other data file.

and if they are just cosmetic, i would have to assume that they are points on the parimater of the ship used for drawing beam effects and such, and that any weapon can fire out of any point, depending on which can see the enemy that needs to be seen.

it also suggests that if a modder forgets to cover an area with an arc, or double covers an area, there may be some problems.

i wonder if you place multiple fireing points covering a single arc, that if you could get a single weapon looking like multiple weapons. that would have some interesting graphical possibilities.
__________________
...the green, sticky spawn of the stars
(with apologies to H.P.L.)
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old August 22nd, 2006, 12:57 PM

Phoenix-D Phoenix-D is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 5,085
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Phoenix-D is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SEV Questions?

If you look at the example file, it does have multiple firing arcs that cover the front and a couple other sides, so double coverage isn't a problem.
__________________
Phoenix-D

I am not senile. I just talk to myself because the rest of you don't provide adequate conversation.
-Digger
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.