OT: Politics - Page 3

Ballbarian · #21 May 12th, 2007, 12:42 AM

Please don't bring a topic like this here. Take it to a higher level general forum. I come here to socialize and get away from "politics". I definitely have an opinion as does everyone on this board, but I would much rather enjoy everyone's company and keep the arguments to slightly more on topic disagreements.

RamsHead · #22 May 12th, 2007, 01:05 AM

You neither have to post in this thread nor even read it if you do not want to.

Jazzepi · #23 May 12th, 2007, 01:49 AM

I really do think this thread doesn't belong here.

Jazzepi

RamsHead · #24 May 12th, 2007, 02:12 AM

Despite everyone's concern, it appears there will not be any major back and forth here. The more that people post in this thread about disliking the thread, the longer it will remain on the first page of threads.

Teraswaerto · #25 May 12th, 2007, 05:35 AM

Quote:

UncleYee said:
If we are, why? Tolkien, who if I understand it denied that his writings had an overt political leanings, none the less painted a very simple black and white world. Though it had a much warmer heart, in a way LotR presents choices as simply as that 300 movie; war is the the choice of the valiant, talk of peace comes from traitors and fools. This is a very right-wing way to evaluate the world, and is still the message coming from our US President.

In Middle-earth Sauron is evil and the orcs are evil. When there are wars or killing between the free peoples (such as the civil war in Gondor, elven kinslayings during the First Age) those who want peace are not traitors or fools.

There are no orcs in the real world, and no Dark Lord. Some people may behave in bad ways, but they are still human. The same is true in Tolkien's writings, the men serving the Dark Lord (be it Sauron or Morgoth) have been coerced or deceived, the struggle is in part to free them from the darkness.

Dedas · #26 May 12th, 2007, 07:35 AM

The biggest burden is on the shoulders of every man; to throw down the ring of war into one's own fire where it once was created, not to use its power. As it is bound to corrupt and consume even the strongest mind, leading it on a path unintended; the killing of one's brother and ultimately the destruction of oneself.

Arralen · #27 May 12th, 2007, 08:46 AM

Well said.

Gandalf Parker · #28 May 12th, 2007, 02:21 PM

I agree. Nicely put.

Beorne · #29 May 12th, 2007, 02:32 PM

I think I contributed to this nice thread saying "US is a weird place" ... I'm not against US, but you have a strange set of values from european eyes. Only strange, that is like contradicting. We in Italy are very contradicting too, but in a different way. So you appear me very strange. Some examples? I dont want to be thrown off 'cause starting a flame war, and my english grasp is not enough good to argue in an abstract way.

RamsHead · #30 May 12th, 2007, 02:37 PM

When you are American, everyone is strange, especially your own countrymen.