How do I kill a water queen with a medusa shield?

[Amhazair]

Penetration stacks, but two items of the same kind don't, so two rune smashers doesn't help you out. +5 penetration is quite easy to reach though, with rune smasher, eye of the void & spell focus. That would give you 14% chance of a clean kill.

In general I would be very afraid to send out the gem investment such a queen represents with only 20MR. Very afraid.

[Saxon]

Argitoth,

Have a good read of the magic resistance section of the manual. There a lot of details that are critical. I learned a lot last night doing just this. I am on the other side of the problem, as I have SC who keep getting knocked out by astral spells like paralyze and, especially enslave mind. I am trying to boost my MR, but knowing how to penetrate it is closely linked.

Rune smasher is not the only item to boost penetration and boosting the levels of the caster is also important. If you have communion capability, you should really explore that, as that can really boost your penetration.

[Argitoth]

The one I'm up against actually has 23 MR

At the top of my head to boost magic resistance:

Rainbow Armor
Amulate of Magic Resistance
Lead Shield
Starshine Skullcap
Amulate of Luck (doesn't raise MR obviously, but helps)


That's at least +17 magic resistance with all those items after you cast resist magic on the battle field. +13 if you don't cast it.

Edit: Also Astral Bless Effect helps (+1 to +4 MR)

[Agrajag]

Edit: Also Astral Bless Effect helps (+1 to +4 MR)

Don't forget that the astral bless won't raise MR above 18 (I think 18).

[DonCorazon]

Try Petrification

[Argitoth]

There's no way any of your suggestions would work for the situation I'm in.

I said at the beginning of the thread that I have access to any item and any spell. YES! I DO! However, I never said I had access to any army, any mage setup, etc. There's VERY little chance to setup the perfect army and move on the right province that the queen moves to.

That is why I have my plan and I don't want to reveal it. Don't post any more suggestions, I'll let you know if my plan works in a day or two. I can't reveal it on the forum because I don't want Wazooking to find out.

[Zeldor]

My 29MR water queen got killed by lucky Disintegrate recently. I wonder what was the chancce of striking it as it looked really buggy in the end of battle.

[Ironhawk]

There is no level of MR which makes a unit invulnerable to the single-target insti-kill/disable spells. As zeldor has found even high 20 MR is not enough to protect you. The problem is severely compounded by the fact that SCs are usually the only prime (size 6) candidate for the many enemy mages to target since those spells favor larger targets.

[Baalz]

I find really tough guys tend to go down to fatigue spamming. As far as fatigue goes Stellar cascades, heat aura, thunderstrike, pillar of fire etc. will circumvent the MR, defense, protection, and MR and regen doesn't help. Additionally fairies, manikins, etc. don't completely circumvent it, but work pretty well in numbers. She's got reinvig, but not that much, and once she's passed out most any half decent thug should be able to pound her into the ground. (just give him good MR). Presumably she's buffing herself a couple times and with that encumbrance she'll be more than halfway passed out before you do anything...

[Argitoth]

Baalz, you don't understand just how impossible this situation is. Your suggestions on spells are great! That's IF I have an army of mages that I can move to the right spot at the right time.

Like I said, I currently have access to any spell and any item, but I don't have access to any army setup. Again, the medusa shield pretty much kills everything. No amount of manikins, vampires, fairy queens, or ghosts will take the queen down, they die before they deal damage.

No more suggestions, just wait till I reveal my strategy!