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				May 29th, 2008, 01:19 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Lords of Civilization 
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 Should they rout if one form loses 75% HP? Because well, as SC they are pretty useless that way, no way to make use of multiple forms.
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 Except if you give them some other units to accompany them. Like the four Ophanim that are summoned in the Tetramorph.  
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 I hate to be a negative nancy, but the word "taught" is misspelled in the Release Lords of Civilization spell description. |  
	
		
	
	
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		| Dedas said: Fair enough. But what about this? The first time you wish it is risk free, the second it becomes a little more risky and so on. The reason: let's say that pestering the gods/forces with your wishes all the time pisses them off.
  
 An addition to the above could be that if you wait a couple of months you are granted a risk free wish again.
 
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 Were the summon screenies taken in a magic 2-3 dominion? I noticed the sub-par 17 MR on em and was wondering if that was base. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Magic 3, I should have mentioned that, sorry. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Lords of Civilization 
 The Grigori, summoned normally, are *more* expensive than demon lords, with the same research and casting requirements... but at least you don't have to worry about having them poached off you.
 Except by wishes.
 
 Maybe wishing for unique creatures should be banned (or produce only an imitation, which may be an imperfect copy in some way and doesn't take away the genuine article from whoever is employing it), and you can still wish for pretender chassis and other non-uniques?
 
 But I have to admit I haven't been in any MP games long enough for wish to come into play, so maybe it's not really a big deal whether it eliminates national barriers and allows summoning chayots cheaper than their regular cost etc.
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 Those Grigori summons are, except for the first one, unwishable for by any other nation because you after wish for the name in the top centre and they are all called Grigori.  So you should get which ever is listed first. 
I am correct in this, arn't I or am I dreaming again?    
Do all 3 nations have access to the lords of civilization or just the Hinnom?  I have only had time to play the Hinnom so far. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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