EA Arco - uncle moneybags

[JimMorrison]

Carcator the Pocket Lich?

"Why is it so dark?"




Stop writing guides please Baalz, you keep making me want to play around with the nation.

[VedalkenBear]

Tichy: Are you under CBM? I made Baalz's Bull, and had only 6 points left over. (I chose Heat over Death, though.)

[Dectilon]

I haven't played Arco to any reasonable extent, but I've played around with the bull a bit.I bought him some fire and some earth to make him a burning stone statue of death that plants itself in the middle of an enemy army and just sits there. It's not viable to use him on his own later on, sure, but he seemed like a solid chaos-causer to move along with one of your larger armies.

Since he goes for trample he rarely gets into scraps with enemy thugs or SCs. My equipment was usually a ring of regen and a resilience amulet.

[Tichy]

@Vedalken: I am -- but I think I know what happened. I'm running an older version of CBM (1.3). Gotta update that.

Thanks.

[Fantomen]

Yeah, I agree totally with DC. Much better to compile your own changes in a mod, name it something specific (not including the word CBM) and then state that is is meant to be used with CBM. From that point take part in the discussion in the CBM thread and argue for your changes.

Also stop flaunting it all over the place! I think you are trying to buy in on the solid reputation of CBM and the massive work behind it in a very bad way.

Great guide BTW.

[chrispedersen]

Rather than continuee to hijaak the thread, I've moved my responses here:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...t=42435&page=2

[cleveland]

DC, clearly you've never tried clevelandCBMver00000007revCy2008m02d13t1432GMT.dm, else you'd understand the true potential of moded mods, and how easy they are to keep track of.

[DonCorazon]

Cleve, what is your ETA on getting the Forging Reference updated for ChrisCBM?

[Baalz]

....and back onto EA Arco. I fully concede that the white bull is not as versatile late game as some other chasises, but for this build you want three things:

1) An awake expansion pretender
2) Very good scales
3) A minor E/N blessing

Good luck affording all that with a pretender who is also top shelf for late game. If you've got a suggestion for one that would work better I'm listening. I also think you discount his combat utility a bit too much, having that invincible battering ram zooming about like superman set to attack rearmost not only makes me happy to think about, it certainly is the sort of thing that will wreck an opponents day in many situations. You won't be using him to singlehandedly take down armies, but used as part of your overall strategy you shouldn't have too hard a time putting him to good use.

@Aezeal - he's got over 200 hitpoints with just one candle, so pushing a strong dominion is certainly not required. You don't want to send him into strong enemy dominion of course, but mildly friendly should be fine along with all those buffs. I didn't mention it, but you'll want to put up enough temples in those forts to make sure your nice dominion covers all your land. He's only got two misc slots, so I'd outfit him generally as I said with an amulet of MR and a ring of whatever resistance seemed best at the time (lighting by default as it's the biggest danger).

@Redeyes - yeah, swarm will give all kinds of different SCs problems, Oreiads included. Haven't tested it, but size 4 wyvern bodyguards should be a fairly effective screen against swarm I'd think.

@analytic_kernel - yeah, I agree. Maybe I didn't make it super clear, but I do mention chariots are your goto guys outside of your capital. There are lots of situations where chariots are next to useless though, anybody who sticks a couple crushers at the front of their army will pretty much ruin your day if all you've got is chariots. Myrmidons certainly have a niche in your army.

@Dragar - The earth is an very important component of the blessing. It doubles the effective time your wind riders can fight which is important for units used in smaller numbers. It's also a non negligible benefit to your Oreiads, and as central as they are to your strategy it seems like a good idea to invest in them.

[Ironhawk]

Originally Posted by Baalz

....and back onto EA Arco...

@Aezeal -

@Redeyes -

@analytic_kernel -

@Dragar -

How come I didnt get an @? I'm going to pout in the corner now.