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August 21st, 2011, 12:04 PM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players, now recruiting
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Here's my counter point to this. There are two major issues with low magic sites, and indeed the CBM gem gen changes, particularly the lack of clams: they make Blood much more powerful since you can't counter/compete with it with big Astral spam and they make caster nations a lot tougher to play. The usefulness of any bless is also considerably increased, which is a good or bad thing depending on how long in the game you think sacred recruitables should be a major force.
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I always felt that the Gem Generators warped long games. Blood, while powerful, has a constant cost. You are giving up gold from the province and research from the hunters. After a one time payment for a clam or blood stone, they are all profit with no real limit to how many you can ultimately collect. Blood income is also a lot more vulnerable than clams. You can raid, assassinate, or conquer blood hunting provinces but a clam hoarder can maintain a 50 astral income even if he is reduced to just his capital.
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August 23rd, 2011, 03:12 AM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
I tend to agree with Catquiet. In addition to his points, there's also the fact that the most recent version of CBM effectively eliminates SDRs. This admittedly is a semi-biased fix, as it affects blood nations disproportionately- Lanka and Vanheim, for instance, are hit much harder than Niefelheim.
As for certain nations needing to meet research goals, I don't advocate slow research (though I've never actually tried altered research settings), and altering site frequency doesn't effect researching at all. To address your specific point, Sil, I would argue that Patala needing Alt 3 by the end of year 1 to counter rushes is fine, but if you're waiting until the end of year 1 to expand in a not crippled manner, you're already way too late to join the party.
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August 23rd, 2011, 03:19 AM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
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August 23rd, 2011, 06:38 AM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
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low magic sites ... make Blood much more powerful
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The number of blood slaves collected is actually affected by the site frequency, so in theory at least this shouldn't be true.
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August 24th, 2011, 11:31 AM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
so whats costing?
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August 24th, 2011, 03:35 PM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
I will no be there from friday night (GMT) to sunday afternoon (GMT time again). Could you delay hosting accordingly ?
Thanks.
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August 26th, 2011, 06:17 PM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
I'm faced with a possible hurricane and loss of power this weekend, and kasnavada will be unable to take his turn from tonight until Sunday (though he's already submitted the current turn)
I'll watch the game clock closely, and will apply a 72 hour extension on the next turn (turn 5). This should cover those of us who may be unable to take our turns this weekend. Quickhost will still be on, so the turn will cycle if we all get it in.
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August 29th, 2011, 09:29 PM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
Bjaarn, why no private messages?
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August 30th, 2011, 01:21 PM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
Thanks for extending !
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September 1st, 2011, 12:42 AM
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Re: Aridia- LA game for intermediate players
I would like to request a 24 hour extension since im moving into a new place and am unsure when ill get my internet up and have time for my turn.
thanks guys...I probably wont need the full 24 hours.
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