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September 2nd, 2020, 01:42 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
Looking at a 1974 test buy on 3500 points, then the Moxambiqans bought a whole 12 T34-85 in amongst a sea of grunts, with a few ZSU-57-2 as well.
If that is too much armourfor you, then back up a copy of the OOB and replace the SPAAA platoon and tank platoon with say a rifle platoon each?
(The Rhodesian infantry had 3 energa AT rifle grenades each team, they have 106mm jeeps, the maps are close country and so it should not be too difficult to deal with the old WW2 surplus tanks, IMHO. Especially 78 onwards when you have RPG-7s availabe)
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September 2nd, 2020, 05:37 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
If you don't follow advice given & use Red it will play very differently South Africa is one of the most experienced sides in Africa Red has poor experience.
If you want a none tank opponent for Rhodesia with experience around 70 like SA go for.
Ethiopia or Eretria they are always fighting & have few or no tanks if I remember correctly in the 70s or the UN.
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September 2nd, 2020, 08:34 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
I do appreciate the advice I just don't feel confident doing changes myself.
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September 3rd, 2020, 10:07 AM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
Follow the above advice then try those nations.
However it is quite simple if your not confident copy the whole MBT folder to another one.
Create a shortcut & rename it backup or whatever.
Use this copy to try modifying so your original install is safe.
Misc tab > turn Show ID Numbers ON #
Utilities tab > Mobhack OOB editor > Formations
Select the correct OOB > Press open & swap the tank ones for something different.
Save any changes after you make them.
# You can turn it off after this just shows the ID number of the formation/units.
So if the tank formation is ID 20 you just scroll to ID 20 & change it.
its fairly straight forward & if yo cannot figure it out just delete the backup installation.
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September 3rd, 2020, 11:03 AM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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No If I choose Rhodesia all the options to fight have to many tanks. The Rhodesian forces don't really have good anti tank equipment. As South Africa I have tanks so that's ok.
I prefer to play either Rhodesia or South Africa. Though with the new orbit for the game I may choose to fight them from Red )
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Are you playing a generated battle or a campaign? If it's a generated battle the solution is to manually buy for the AI but let it deploy. Yes, you will know exactly what you are up against but you won't know where it will be.
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September 3rd, 2020, 03:50 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
I like campaigns but really I enjoy buying the force more then playing the game LOL. But when I try to play ya it is a problem.
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September 3rd, 2020, 06:10 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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I like campaigns but really I enjoy buying the force more then playing the game LOL. But when I try to play ya it is a problem.
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Can you give us some more detail on this African campaign...?
I'm thinking number of build points, map size, length etc...
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September 3rd, 2020, 06:46 PM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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Ethiopia or Eretria they are always fighting & have few or no tanks if I remember correctly in the 70s or the UN.
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If you are talking about the fighting after Eritrean independence there definitely were tanks involved. There were also modern jets, at least on the Ethiopian side. Both countries spent a great deal of money on modern equipment.
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September 4th, 2020, 12:43 AM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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Ethiopia or Eretria they are always fighting & have few or no tanks if I remember correctly in the 70s or the UN.
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If you are talking about the fighting after Eritrean independence there definitely were tanks involved. There were also modern jets, at least on the Ethiopian side. Both countries spent a great deal of money on modern equipment.
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Could not remember which but Eretria does not get tanks till early 80's
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September 4th, 2020, 07:20 AM
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Re: Creating African scenarios
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Originally Posted by Imp
Ethiopia or Eretria they are always fighting & have few or no tanks if I remember correctly in the 70s or the UN.
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If you are talking about the fighting after Eritrean independence there definitely were tanks involved. There were also modern jets, at least on the Ethiopian side. Both countries spent a great deal of money on modern equipment.
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Could not remember which but Eretria does not get tanks till early 80's
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After a protracted guerilla war against various Ethiopian governments, Eritrea officially became independent in 1993 under the leadership of the Eritrean People's Liberation Front. The war between independent Eritrea and Ethiopia began in 1998. There are various reasons war broke out, but I'm inclined to think it was very much a personal issue between the Eritrean and Ethiopian leaders.
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