SP, MLRS and SPAA Developments

[blazejos]

2M3 Naval Guns became famous after all this installations on MT-LB & ATS-59G

Here meme from twitter https://twitter.com/Me_of_EE Tolkien fans



Look also on two of their maps

How would it be if Mordor was russia?
Map made in Mordor:
https://twitter.com/Me_of_EE/status/...CoueuG2LIsAAAA

Middle-earth of Eastern Europe:
https://twitter.com/Me_of_EE/status/...689600/photo/1

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

The following is HUGE in its ramifications and breaks the "myth" of "Hypersonic" missiles and its "invincibility".

Your teaser the rest is on you the "reader"!
"CNN notes that while the Patriot system has been successful in countering ballistic missiles, its ability to stop air-launched hypersonic missiles was purely theoretical before last week."

And that has been the thinking for quite some time now even beyond our Patriot Systems.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...08728a59&ei=12
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-AA1aTAXj
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ne/ar-AA1aPGkQ
(NOTE: THE BOTTOM UKRAINIAN PICTURE THAT IS A TRUCK MOUNTED SYSTEM WHICH MOST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ARE USING. THAT SYSTEM APPEARS TO BE A GERMAN ONE AS IT'S MOUNTED CLEARLY ON A MAN 8x8 TRUCK. WE ALSO HAVE THEM MOUNTED ON THE OSH KOSH TRUCKS AS USED WITH HIMARS.)

Regards,
Pat

[Suhiir]

Hats off to the crew of that Ukrainian Patriot battery!
One of the main issues with hypersonic missiles is limited target acquisition time.

[blazejos]

New invention on Russian side T-54&57mm AA gun hybrid



here more photos
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1...9280065493920a

[blazejos]

Originally Posted by DRG

Jordan Gepards will go to Ukraine too https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...nced-6886.html

[MarkSheppard]

It's official; directed energy weapons are here to stay.

https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/st...329216/photo/1

Ukraine has received the Blighter AUDS Anti-UAV Defence System (being incorrectly reported as a Laser weapon system -- probably because it doesn't look like anything seen before)

https://www.blighter.com/products/au...efence-system/

Which basically zaps UAVs with microwave jamming.

EDIT: The reason people got confused is that apparently AUDS is currently used with the PHEL Laser prototype under test -- AUDS in that application provides support to the PHEL laser unit by locating, tracking and (if necessary) jamming hostile UAVs -- presumably to keep PHEL from being targeted by enemy UAVs in swarm attacks?

[Suhiir]

I suspect we'll see SEAD suicide drones come out in the next couple weeks/months.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Well, I'm putting this here so I can track it easier as it seems the Thread it's in seems to have been "hijacked" to a degree.

Increment 1 testing was completed just a short time ago and the first unit equipped was chosen to complete that and the OP-EVAL which was successful.

We will see these soon. The ref. is seriously "downplaying" M-SHORAD Increment 2 and we won't see it even if approved as FY 2024 which starts in 2 weeks for funding just still only for R&D.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12397
(Updated on 1 June 2023.)

We already have a decades long technology of being able to both jam radars and communications signals simply called "jamming".

We use them on in the air, sea and land. With a little research you will find that Russia has already started to equip their tanks with such systems they won't require a lot of power and they'll be compact. It'll only need to create a "bubble" around the tank similar to what APS does. With oscillators' that can scan the frequency band in a matter of milliseconds it'll do the nicely. Generally, the process is referred to as heterodyning.

Anyway, I need some sleep as work calls later today. My relief on Saturdays has informed me we "knock out" 7.5+ miles of walking in just over 6 hrs. (We just use our units to get from point A to B unlike the majority of others.) in our secure area.

No wonder I feel so "chipper".

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

Found this as well

https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R46463.html

[DRG]

I've added MLRS to the thread title

There are "issues" am hoping to resolve

MLRS in the game now pretty much behaves like WW2 rocket arty. It's an area weapon but it has evolved and the game is stuck in the past. I'm not saying it's way out of line for a lot of unguided MLRS systems but it is for something like HIMARs

I have read various articles about Himars accuracy and the game cannot come close with it as O/M rocket artillery unit class as the accuracy of the GPS rounds is commonly stated to be in the 1-3 meter range from the intended POI and that is the LR Himars and the long-range Missile has a 300 KM range.

In game terms, it should be able to hit a target that is stationary in a single hex........one missile, one target, one hit. It should NOT be doing what it does in the game now which is spread the POI over half a Km or more

But also Himars is not a weapon designed to be used on front-line targets although in a pinch it could. These are deep-strike weapons intended for targets far behind the lines. The ones Ukraine has "only" have an 80km range and what makes them effective is it is hard to hit back at a Himars once it has fired because it can move almost immediately

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-62512681

"Himars is very accurate when it is used against fixed targets when you have the exact co-ordinates,"

"But it is not so effective against moving targets such as troops, so it cannot push back an advance."

....and that is the focus of the game so it's possible that these would be best used in the game for counter-battery or with ROF drastically reduced from what it is now and used like NLOS weapons but still..... these things shine when taking out critical targets far outside the area of the front line covered by even the largest map

.......so.....open to comments..

I have built test units that operate as NLOS but the problem with NLOS targeting is it needs a target and you have to pick what is given, you cannot target a bridge and you can target things HIMARS was not intended to target like an individual tank ( it does a SPECTACULAR job doing that though..... but that isn't what it is supposed to be used for..........they also shine as counter battery........ mostly "BATTERY DESTROYED" messages when they do CB but at 100 grand a pop there are cheaper ways )

( they are used on....... )targets such as command posts and ammunition depots.........(and) has also been used to target bridges

Further....... I just "discovered" that HIMARS system has eleven different missiles it can fire so I need to dig into what the capability is for each