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				 Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.6 
 If we're going purely on theme, sure, that would make sense.  But then no nation really works that way, and it would significantly alter the way the game works if they did.  You could maybe make it work, but I imagine it would be difficult. 
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				 Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.6 
 I do think that with the recent changes to underwater accessibility in CBM 1.6, a revisitation of the kappa summon is in order. At this point it's easier to(if you want to rush the water) prophetise your assassin and turn 5 forge an amulet of breathing(which you actually have the native gem capabilities for and is Const-0!), then have him assassinate through a few water provinces. Or just go to Const-2, make a Manual of Water Breathing and send some Go-Hatamoto to pillage the water(they are great at it, by the way). Total investment: 5 gems.
 In comparison Summon Kappa is a rotten deal. Frankly, with the mage turns required to get a usable number of kappas, you could have researched up to Const-2 and gotten underwater troops that don't melt when they meet Triton Troopers. I'd rather just have 3 or 4 or 5 normal kappas per summon.
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				January 1st, 2010, 10:23 PM
			
			
			
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 I'd probably give every Jomon unit a #bonus longbow, call it a yumi and give it whatever resource cost is appropriate. |  
	
		
	
	
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 What's up with all the LOLongbow fanboyism in these kind of games? The whole thing is just silly to me and serves no purpose. 
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				 Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.6 
 What on earth are you talking about?  I don't see any "LOLongbow fanboyism" at all in this or any other thread here.  As for Jomon, Samurai were archers first, whether on foot or horseback, and their sword would only be used for when the enemy was too close for shooting.  Realistically, they'd also prefer to use a naginata or yari if they knew they were going to fight simply because it's safer than fighting with a katana. |  
	
		
	
	
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 vfb has been possessed by the ghost of machingunjoeturbo :O 
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				 Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.6 
 Jomon does not equal Japan. Jomon = orientalist vision of japan, at best. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but ideas like 'give all Jomonese units longbows' do not belong in this thread. It's about balance, not historical blah blah. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.6 
 To give all Jomon units longbows _is_ a balance suggestion.  The cavalry at least should certainly have them.  Since the samurai archers are currently inferior to the non-archer troops, and since one goal should be to have Jomon field armies that are composed of archers that are no less deadly in melee combat, then the elites should certainly have their own archery equipment. |  
	
		
	
	
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