MP: STACKERS, newbie game, (started)

[cwkjc]

He he he, you're right, this is the end...

[Nauquan]

I just got jumped by a gang of geriatric bookworms wielding canes.

[Greyjoy]

Heh, lovely blitz of squid globals.

[Nauquan]

Yes, nice job whomever(s). Impressive.

[13lackGu4rd]

I'm very saddened and disappointed by what has happened. I will explain everything below, than you guys decide what you wish to do about it, if anything at all.

so, you guys noticed that all of my globals were dispelled this turn. what you didn't see was that 4 of my Starspawns were responsible for the dispels(well 1 failed I think so that could have been someone else). now, it should be obvious that I wasn't the one to order my own Starspawns to dispel my own globals, it would be very dumb for me to do this. there were also many other messed up things. for one I had 3 mages summoning some of the elemental royalty(2 earth kings 1 water queen) yet neither of them cast the spells. an S9 caster that cast wish(for a seraph) didn't happen. I had 3-4 S5(natural, as in no boosters) Starspawns equipped with 6 pearls each, with orders to teleport and magic duel some of Ashdod's mages, which didn't happen either and caused Ashdod to successfully kill my pretender. moreover I set some armies to move in and intercept Ashdod's UW invasion, which also never actually took place. there was also a Gargoyle that I've summoned yet the mage never cast the spell, a crystal coin that wasn't forged(and the hammer on the mage disappearing) and probably other things that I don't remember right now.

all in all, it seems very clear that somebody sabotaged my turn. also, seeing that this was a very crucial turn, I am lead to believe that somebody has been spying on my turns(not with scouts but actually seeing my turns) for at least a few turns now(who knows how long), to know exactly when to strike with this blunt sabotage. for obvious reasons(lack of hard evidence) I can't point the finger at any of you. however I do know that Ashdod had the most to gain from this massive interference with my game play, Amadamus seems to hate my guts after my BoT and that there are a few people that never said a word in this thread(or at least for a very long time now). this silence, especially with all the drama, is suspicious to say the least.

now, as I said, I can't point my finger at somebody, all I know is who is suspicious and who had the most to gain, but it could very well be any of you. I've checked with Gandalf first to make sure it wasn't some weird bug on his server, but the fact that nobody else complained about any oddities makes a bug highly unlikely. the timing, the location(me, being the bad guy after all the drama, and perhaps the most dangerous nation) also favor the sabotage option. I've also asked Gandalf for a reroll(just to be fair, but I knew it wouldn't happen), and obviously he disagreed(and I don't blame him).

so, here is how I see it. despite dominions not being a sport per se, the sportsmanship and fair play has been brutally attacked in this specific game. as far as I'm concerned, there's no point for me to continue(seeing that the source of the sabotage is still unknown, so it can happen again, and again, and that my turns are seen by someone else besides myself at the very least) due to this fierce and brutal outside interference. so, I'm setting myself to AI, than Gandalf can monitor exactly what happens next turn to maybe give him more insight on this situation. as for the rest of you, if anybody of you is man enough to admit what you've done than please step forward and admit it. I know it is very unlikely any of you will step up, but you have crossed the thickest red line available! the clear and obvious winner from this situation is Ashdod, whether he was behind it or not. so, if you guys wish to continue that is entirely up to you, but now the entire game balance has been disrupted by outside means. if you still wish to continue playing than go ahead, it's your call. but if I was any of you, and faced with this situation(happening to somebody else, not just yourself) than I would personally vote to end the game due to the sportsmanship and fair play being grossly interfered with, and the game balance going down the drain by foul means.

I'm very sorry that this game has come down to this low point. as you guys can see from all the things going wrong with my turn, I was in a very good position, still is despite this quite massive setback, so it's not about bailing out or anything. it's just that foul play should never be rewarded, so this is the only sensible thing for me to do.the rest is up to you guys. and for the slim chance that somebody does step up and admit committing this foul play, than I hope it would be enough of a reason for a reroll. but I don't have high hopes for that...

[Amadamus]

Ah come on BG - someone stole your PW and then reset all your moves? Occam's razor mate. Most likely you have not pressed the end turn button and quit and saved instead.

I can't help but see the irony of the situation though and i must commend you for the sympathy you heeped on me when my world turned upside down - however, there is no reason why you should quit. Fight through the pain like i did - adapt your tactics to your new reality...

Do you want me to give you a few tips?

[13lackGu4rd]

I can't even tell if this was cynicism or not, in any case it was pathetic! no I didn't "save and quit" I'm fully capable of getting my turns in... moreover "save and quit" wouldn't account for casting things I didn't do(like the dispels).

now, let me ask you something. how can I "adapt my tactics" when I'm not in control of my turn? if this was simply a manner of in game actions than it wouldn't have come to that, but seeing that it's an outside interference the situation is clearly different! adapting tactics is very good as long as you're actually in control of your own actions, this is clearly not the case here! heck, throw an Arcane Corruption at me to bring horrors with every spell I cast, with that I can deal with, cast Arcane Nexus and Forge of the Ancients together and forge 50 dead cheap items every turn! I can deal with that as well! but when you take away my ability to actually play my turns, not that's different... nothing I can do about it!

[Amadamus]

Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd

I can't even tell if this was cynicism or not, in any case it was pathetic! no I didn't "save and quit" I'm fully capable of getting my turns in... moreover "save and quit" wouldn't account for casting things I didn't do(like the dispels).

now, let me ask you something. how can I "adapt my tactics" when I'm not in control of my turn? if this was simply a manner of in game actions than it wouldn't have come to that, but seeing that it's an outside interference the situation is clearly different! adapting tactics is very good as long as you're actually in control of your own actions, this is clearly not the case here! heck, throw an Arcane Corruption at me to bring horrors with every spell I cast, with that I can deal with, cast Arcane Nexus and Forge of the Ancients together and forge 50 dead cheap items every turn! I can deal with that as well! but when you take away my ability to actually play my turns, not that's different... nothing I can do about it!

Pathetic? thats not very nice... and by the way its Astral Corruption.

Look the premise of your gripe is that some dastardly villain has hacked your game. I suggested that it was possible that you committed an error, but instead you you would rather accuse other players of cheating, that is poor form.

Hmmm, i think i used that line as well 'nothing i can do about it' when all my warlocks died to BoT...

The fact of the matter is, it is more likely that you stuffed up your turn, but instead of considering this possibility you would rather point the finger.

[13lackGu4rd]

see, the thing is, I didn't stuff my turn! I know fully well what I did and didn't do, and if it was simply a matter of wrong scripting than I would have just moved on! but it wasn't! why on earth would I specifically cast dispel 4 times and target each of my globals in each time? heck, why would I even cast dispel in the first place? if that Mother Oak of Man bothered me so much I'd have dispelled it long ago... also why on earth would I lie about summoning the royalties, wishing, etc and why would I give up on a perfectly fine and probably still winning position if it wasn't for something actually extreme?

now, stuff your poor warlocks and BoT already, that's something in game which can be dealt with. I won't open up that drama again, but if you still don't know how you should have countered it after all the discussions you invoked on it and the answers you received, than the problem is 100% yours... so go ahead, put up Arcane Nexus and Forge of the Ancients together, and equip like 20 thugs/SCs each turn for dirt cheap and gaining most of your gems back from the nexus. at least it's something in game which means it can be handled in game, and if not than you won fair and square. this is not the situation here, and I'm repeating this for 1 last time!

learn to read, work on your reading comprehension, I don't know what, but please start to understand what you're reading! I really didn't use difficult language, and it seems like you're just trying to piss me off by repeating your nonsense even after I already replied to it, heck I replied on it even before you made your first post!

[Gandalf Parker]

Actually, it does appear in the logs that certain units took steps to specifically undo their earlier actions.
It does not appear to be just "lack of actions" as would be true for a botched turn.