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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
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Tolls here in the good old USA are becoming more prevalent all over. I went to Flordia (Disney World, and went to the space center etc) and there were tolls every few miles. The cost wasn't more then, If I remember right, 10-25 cents. Here in Ohio, we have the Turnpike which is a toll road. I'm with Trajan, as long as the money for the tolls goes for the up keep of the highway, I have no problem paying, its the cost of quick access to where your going and worth the money in the long run, in fact during the winter the Turnpike is probably the best plowed interstate in Ohio vs some of the others we have I-71, I480 etc. A road tax, if it was only and used only for the road up keep, I believe most people would be for it. The problem would be to keep the politicians from using the money for their pet projects instead.
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all right, one more comment on tolls & road taxes; I've heard that the Pennsylvania Turnpike (a toll road, obviously) has collected enough tolls over the years to pay for initial construction, plus upkeep, and now the vast majority of the tolls collected goes to paying the salaries of the toll collectors...
I'll go back to my corner table now and hide from the family that has descended upon my house for the week in preparation for my (future) parents-in-law's 50th wedding anniversary celebration...
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August 7th, 2002, 05:05 PM
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
We dont have tolls in England (save for some bridges build under private sector initiatives) and I dont think we want them..
The whole point of our road tax was that it was meant to be the one and only charge motorists pay for the upkeep of the motorway system...
Kind of works on a stellar scale really, the galaxy has black holes, we have the M6 through Birmingham.
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August 7th, 2002, 05:39 PM
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
If I'm not mistaken Michigan either still has or used to have a highway tax and their interstates were always in great shape compared to a lot of other states.
Mac... Michigan roads were the worst roads I ever did drive on... Pot holes so big they could swallow a mini whole ( in michigan a mini is 1/4 ton truck chassis with the 25000 dollar option of 4 seats in the back ... or a Small SUV ).... I do hope Ohio roads are better than that....
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
Gentlemen,
There was a time, when Michigan highways were touted as some of the best in the nation, though that was when I was a young lad living on the shores of Lake Michigan.
Now they are in reasonable shape (I alst drove on them Last fall (2001) and probably worse than many states.
I am not sure what Michigan does for state funding of their roads, though it is probably wrapped up in the sales, income, property taxes that we normally pay in most States of the union.
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
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I've heard that the Pennsylvania Turnpike (a toll road, obviously) has collected enough tolls over the years to pay for initial construction, plus upkeep, and now the vast majority of the tolls collected goes to paying the salaries of the toll collectors...
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According to the financial factsheet at the PA Turnpike Web site {link], the annual cost of collecting the tolls is $59.9M, while the maintenance cost is only $45.8M, but those are both only a fraction of the annual net revenue of $348M.
The PA Turnpike uses a system where you're given a punch card when you enter, then pay the total for the distance travelled when you exit.
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August 7th, 2002, 09:16 PM
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
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quote: Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx: I've heard that the Pennsylvania Turnpike (a toll road, obviously) has collected enough tolls over the years to pay for initial construction, plus upkeep, and now the vast majority of the tolls collected goes to paying the salaries of the toll collectors...
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According to the financial factsheet at the PA Turnpike Web site {link], the annual cost of collecting the tolls is $59.9M, while the maintenance cost is only $45.8M, but those are both only a fraction of the annual net revenue of $348M.
The PA Turnpike uses a system where you're given a punch card when you enter, then pay the total for the distance travelled when you exit. Obviously, my original post was just an urban legend... I suspected as much, but it's such a funny thought I had to pass it on anyway. Thanks for researching that, capn...
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August 7th, 2002, 10:40 PM
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
Bugger roads.. these are boring subjects...
Ladies, Gentlemen, old sods like Mac and weird young folk with acne who need to get off their computers, have a shower, get down the gym and discover women...
Oh, and Gryphin
I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT
I have an annoucement which will explain (a) why I am pissed as a very drunk thing indeed and (b) have had about 4 cigars already (which is bad given that I gave up smoking Last christmas)
I am very pleased to announce (cos it means I am not a jaffa) that the current Mrs GT has told me this evening that she is expecting...
Yes, this means that Tigga Junior is on his way....
The current Mrs Gt swears it is mine, and that the drunken recollection of Enrique Iglesias in the bedroom is a complete fabrication and Enrique does not look like the bloke down the chipshop inany way...
Hmmm.. I feel a DNA test coming up but what the hell..
CLAN TIGGA STARTS HERE...
10 more and I will have Chelsea's first team
GOD PRAISE ME
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August 8th, 2002, 12:02 AM
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
For Tigga's about to spawn...
I salute you!
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August 8th, 2002, 01:56 AM
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
Blink, Blink, Blink
Um, 10 more and I think you will have a divorce.
Congrats, may they be as intelligent at you and atractive as Ms GT.
Had to come out of the shadows to express my sincere appelations.
By the way, what are you getting drunk on?
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Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
Well, we always knew you had testosterone. How else could you post the way you do?
That is another thing you have done that I never will.
I wish you the best and brightest (and like my Pal - lident said, I hope they get Ms. GT's looks)
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