WinSP MBT: Das Reich

[Warhero]

Edit function seems not to work... Problem is winter icon (7735) which is empty. Others are ok. So, can I change that winter icon into some another?

Warhero

[IronDuke99]

Originally Posted by DRG

Don't think so. If they had been in a postion to use it becasue the war was dragging on and there were no allied troops inside Germany borders I don't belive there is any doubt it would have been used there first.

I have been thinking about this and I wonder if the Western Allies would have used an A Bomb on Nazi Germany all that easily, unless they thought Germany was at all close to developing her own -when they most certainly would have, merely to get in before Hitler used his.

Germany had millions of slave workers, many from western nations, not to mention large numbers of Western Allied POWS, so I think the war has to be going very badly for the Western Allies, and very well for Germany, for an A bomb, or bombs get to be dropped there. Especially since conventional raids on Germany were devarstating city, after city (as they were also doing in Japan). There were not many Atomic bombs available in 1945-46 and no one much wanted to invade Japan...

[Warhero]

FYI:Sorry disinformation in my previous message. I noticed that Pionierpanzer 1 AND 2 don't appear during battle (and in Encyclopedia too). I tried to change winter icon by converting it with summer icon in Mobhack but no success... Can anyone else confirm this? Any help?

Warhero

[RecruitMonty]

You are probably the only person who is experiencing this problem. Did you install ICON0183.shp? The old copy needs to be overwritten and you need to replace the British OOB with the modified one. That is all you need to do to fix this.

[Warhero]

I installed mod just as instructions said. But I got finally that icon converted with "new" icon (2466). Ok it's just summer icon but enough for me... I had to make one "trick" to search/find it.

Warhero

[RecruitMonty]

Originally Posted by Warhero

I installed mod just as instructions said. But I got finally that icon converted with "new" icon (2466). Ok it's just summer icon but enough for me... I had to make one "trick" to search/find it.

Warhero

Are you sure? Check to see if Icon183 was in fact over written. The icon you are using for the Pionierpanzer 1 is the wrong one. If the icon183 is properly installed then it should appear as such.

[RecruitMonty]

Originally Posted by IronDuke99

I have been thinking about this and I wonder if the Western Allies would have used an A Bomb on Nazi Germany all that easily, unless they thought Germany was at all close to developing her own -when they most certainly would have, merely to get in before Hitler used his.

Germany had millions of slave workers, many from western nations, not to mention large numbers of Western Allied POWS, so I think the war has to be going very badly for the Western Allies, and very well for Germany, for an A bomb, or bombs get to be dropped there. Especially since conventional raids on Germany were devarstating city, after city (as they were also doing in Japan). There were not many Atomic bombs available in 1945-46 and no one much wanted to invade Japan...

So what? The Americans tested nukes well within reach of their own troops who were in little more than fox holes in the 50s. It is said they only figured out the dangers posed by radiation much later.

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by RecruitMonty

It is said they only figured out the dangers posed by radiation much later.

During the Manhattan Project, fallout wasn't actually even taken seriously or known if at all -- hence the disbelief by Groves about radiation casualties at Hiroshima and Nagasaki in late August 1945 when Japanese news started talking about it.

Essentially in the Manhattan Project, radiation poisoning was considered to only be a danger to those within the prompt zone of the bomb -- e.g. those within 700 to 1000 meters of the device when it initiated -- and subject to about 10,000 Rads (100 Grays) of instantaneous ionizing radiation from the fission reaction itself.

This was considered to be of minor interest, as that zone nearly neatly overlapped the 20 PSI radius (600 meters out), where

"Heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished."

Also, unlike TRINITY (100 foot tower), the Japanese attacks were airbursts at several thousand feet above ground level, so weren't considered to be at danger for causing a lot of contaminated ground.

Reference: (Groves disbelief of Japanese Radiation Poisoning)
Telephone Conversation between General Groves and Lt. Col. Rea, Oak Ridge Hospital, 9:00 a.m., 25 August 1945.

[Suhiir]

There was a rather steep and expensive learning curve when it came to the side effects of both nuclear and chemical weapons. No one had a clue what the long-term effects would be and there's no way to study them until you actually have someone with them. They certainly didn't have access to modern research techniques and devices.

Keep in mind during WW II people didn't take noncombatant casualties into account nearly as much as we do today. One may as well feel morally outraged about Roman slavery as WW II attitudes.

[Warhero]

Hmm intersting. Icon 183 seems to be Patton (M48?) summer icon... Well should I remove all "defaults" (which came with original MBT) and install only mod icons instead?