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March 3rd, 2017, 07:11 AM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
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March 3rd, 2017, 07:30 AM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
Ehhm.. SKIF ATGM UKRAINE has 255 Penetration.. is it normal?
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March 3rd, 2017, 07:47 AM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
Congratulations... the patch hasn't been out and hour and you found the first mistake in an obscure Ukrainian ATGM. That's quite a talent you have.
I'm thinking that was supposed to be 90 ended up being a mistype 900 and the game "corrected" it the highest number allowed which is 255, Then we missed that in the final check
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March 3rd, 2017, 08:41 AM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
Thanks a lot Don & Andy !
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March 3rd, 2017, 09:38 AM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
Both games by the numbers.....( March 2017 )
winSPMBT OOB's contain 36,555 units -- winSPMBT units contain 68 individual unit data entries per unit
There are 16,539 formations in winSPMBT and each of those has 20 data points
There are 15,611 weapons listed in winSPMBT. ...each of those has 13 data points
winSPMBT DATA BITS
UNITS
36,555 X 68 = 2,485,740 bits of data
FORMATIONS
16,539 X 20 = 330,780 bits of data
WEAPONS
15,611 X 13 = 202,943 bits of data
TOTAL bits of data in winSPMBT's OOB's
2,485,740 + 330,780 + 202,943 = 3,019,463
Three Million, Nineteen Thousand, Four Hundred and Sixty Three
winSPWW2 OOB's contain 12,566 units
winSPWW2 contains 60 individual unit data entries per unit
There are 6,979 formations in winSPWW2 and each of those has 20 data points
There are 4,828 weapons listed in winSPWW2 ...each of those has 13 data points
winSPWW2 DATA BITS
UNITS
12,566 x 60 = 753,960
FORMATIONS
6,979 x 20= 139,580
WEAPONS
4,828 X 13 = 62,764
TOTAL bits of data in winSPWW2
753,960 + 139,580 + 62,764 = 956,304
Nine Hundred and Fifty-Six Thousand Three Hundred and Four
Total Data bits in both games
3,019,463 + 956,304 = 3,975,767
THREE MILLION NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY-FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIXTY-SEVEN
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March 3rd, 2017, 12:44 PM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
Quick question, according to the site the latest patch is for those who have v10b from 2016.
I double checked mine and while it is 10, it is from 2015, at least according to the info showing.
Are they the same versions?
The 10b consolidation patch says it is for several previous versions of the game but nothing about regular 10 (2015).
I am probably missing something so I rather ask here than do something which will damage the installation.
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March 3rd, 2017, 02:04 PM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
Yes 10 = 10b\
the latest version is NOT a consolidation patch. If you have SPMBTv10 ( they all say 10 but but was the second version of 10 released a day or two after )
IF your game says it's V10 install the new V11
IF your version is < V10 install the V10b patch first THEN the V11
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March 3rd, 2017, 02:18 PM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
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Originally Posted by luigim
Ehhm.. SKIF ATGM UKRAINE has 255 Penetration.. is it normal?
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These are the stats (and name) that weapon should be using.
There are NO plans to pull the installer and re-issue everything for one minor Ukrainian ATGM so anyone who's really interested and doesn't PBEM can change it themselves with MOBHack. Then run the OOB ( obat079 ) through the cost calculator.
Anyone who's not interested can ignore this
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March 3rd, 2017, 10:02 PM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
Many thanks for the latest patch and all the work that has gone into it. The new maps are a huge improvement, really very much better.
My own disappointments with it in regard to British Forces are:
Lack of the new marksmen's rifle in Royal Marine and Para Platoons (these blokes get everything first) and they got that ahead of the infantry too.
Perhaps the oddest one is the continuing use of the SA80 and LSW in SAS and SBS units (UK SF have never, ever, used either weapon and the LSW weapon is no longer used by any British regular Infantry, Para or Royal Marines units. It was always unpopular largely due to its magazine placement, under the weapon). Incidentally, while the thing about British Special Forces being strategic deep recce troops is true enough, in British campaigns (Falklands, Gulf 1 and 2, Sierra Leone, Afghan etc) some British Special Forces are normally made available to the British senior officer in theater, for local use. Examples being the pebble Island raid in 1982 and the joint British and Australian SAS raid on the Iraqi's in the second Iraq War. Would a Lt. Col. command them, probably not, but a Brig. Gen might, occasionally.
No increase from six to eight tubes on UK infantry mortar platoons.
No increase from one to two Warrior IFV in a Company HQ section in British Armoured Infantry Companies.
No 5 inch gun Naval Gunfire Support from C.2023 when the first type 26 Frigates will be available.
I actually put in a fair bit of effort to try to get this stuff right, so I am, myself, a bit disappointed, but, again, good patch, thanks for all the hard work. I will just have to get to work on mobhack.
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March 3rd, 2017, 10:25 PM
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Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017
Those rifles are used in eight units, So sorry you're disappointed. This seems to be the "great patch BUT...." release.
I have no idea what you are referring to by "No 5 inch gun Naval Gunfire Support from C.2023" is supposed to mean, MAYBE the reasons some of these "concerns" of yours were passed over is because they are vague and unclear and SERIOUSLY...... the ONLY difference between an SA80 and whatever else you would use there is the name.....in game terms zero
The Brit OOB is Andys baby in any event.
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