High PD kinda useless.

[Cainehill]

Endoperez said:

It hasn't been nerfed per se. Jotunheim provincial defense is weaker now, but not because it was made weaker, but because larger armies are more common and they are one of the nations whose province defence wasn't boosted. They might not be one of the nations with very good PD any more.

From what people have posted, Jotunheim gets only 1/2 a troop per point of PD, that's half what they got in Dom2. I call that nerfed, wouldn't you?

[PDF]

Well PD is not much more effective than in Dom2, *but* you usually have more money to invest in, so whereas in Dom2 we put either 2 or 11 PD, it's now rather 11 or 21+.
So small raiding armies can be stopped, but as armies are larger also it's more or less the same, unless vs spells that didn't "rescale" such as Calls ..
But, and that's my point , now stealthy scouts and armies are much more easily detected and defeated.
IMHO that's the real change : I wasn't very fond of stealthy strategies in D2 but now they're even weaker...

[NTJedi]

bleach168 said:
I'm playing Pythium and I have lots of money so I invest in PD usually up to 50-60 in provinces bordering my enemies.

Some nations such as Pythium have weak province defense and some nations such as Jotun have very powerful province defense. The main reason I stopped playing Machaka was because their province defense had me losing provinces deep inside my territory to little weak spells like call of the winds. On a map of 400+ provinces it's unrealistic to place troops and commanders in all provinces for spells like 'call of the winds'. Sure eventually a global spell can be casted to help, yet I'd rather be investing my gems in an offensive strategy instead of placing a band-aid on some weakness in the nation.

Hopefully we'll see some improvements with province defense in the upcoming patches.

[Endoperez]

NTJedi said:
The main reason I stopped playing Machaka was because their province defense had me losing provinces deep inside my territory to little weak spells like call of the winds.

Hopefully we'll see some improvements with province defense in the upcoming patches.

PD was changed already. Jotunheim, as an example, gets just few giants. Other nations get lots of (often weak) troops.


Commander at def 1: Machaka Chief
Units at def 1+: 3xMachaka Militia, Machaka Warrior
Commander at def 20: Machaka Commander
Units at def 20+: Machaka Hoplite

Stronger than it used to, but still quite weak. However, you can afford to buy more province defense. You might be forced to go a big higher with Machaka than you would with other nations, but you have Heat 2 for extra points. 60 units you get from PD 15 should rout a Call of the Winds.

[NTJedi]

Thanks for the info Endoperez... I might give Machaka another try.

[Shovah32]

For Border provinces i try to go pd20, maybe as high as 30-40 if its very important or i have no army near. As a general rule of thumb i try to place one recruited archer/crossbow in a province (atleast) for each point of pd. I add battle mages if i have cheap mages with great spells (any nation with e2+ is good(as are many others), summon earthpower, spam bladewind) because, while you often want them with your main armies the sort of damage they can do is amazing (nether bolts, bladewind, falling frost/fires, a few of the clouds ect)

[Endoperez]

NTJedi said:Thanks for the info Endoperez... I might give Machaka another try.

Thank Bruce. That's from the manual. You know, from the nation lists. All the PDs are listed there. And all the castles they build on various terrains are listed there.