Can't get more than 5 neutral races - Page 4

Atrocities · #31 September 8th, 2003, 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Neutrals are no less xenophobic or war-mongering. They just can't send attacks at you.

But once in a while they do expand. I have seen a major surrender to a neutral and then the neutral expanded rather well.

Atrocities · #32 September 8th, 2003, 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Alari:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Much better off playing multiplayer.

Sure! Wanna play by e-mail, once a day, no combat for the first 500 turns? (That's just getting started, after all. =)

No? :>

(I have a feeling my style of play may be a bit... er, different, than most others')
Umm... I do not think I have ever had a game Last 500 turns...

500 turns is a lot to ask for in a PBW game with no combat. Most combat occurs around 50 turns and up. Think about the math on this, a game that has a turn a day for 500 days without combat. That is like nearly 2 years. NO PBW game has ever Lasted that long that I am aware of. Most die off around six months or so.

Atrocities · #33 September 8th, 2003, 05:59 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Umm... if you just want AI players, you can have up to 20 players in a game. The settings for normal AIs work fine. Why do you want so many neutrals anyways? They are not very good opponents.

I too would love to have a game with a bunch of neutral AI's and only a few Majors. Kinda like BOTF.

Atrocities · #34 September 8th, 2003, 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by Alari:
I would think it would be the perspectives of their customers, the ones who pay for their software and keep them in business. ^.^

But like I said, I support small game companies when I can.

edit: and I want it fixed too. :> I didn't realize we were arguing. But I don't think neutrals are pointless, and from what I've heard they can be made fairly challenging with the right AI files.

Neutrals are very important to any game. I love neutral races. They add flavor to the game and give me aliens to conquer.

As for MM, they are working on SF at the moment and have not had a lot of time to work on a new patch for SEIV. I have heard that there will be one Last patch, and I hope that it will include a fix for several things.

Jack Simth · #35 September 8th, 2003, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by Alari:
I don't want "opponents", I want to seek out new life, and new civilizations, to boldly.. eh, you know the rest. Neutrals seemed like a way to fill out the rest of the galaxy with people who aren't xenophobic war-mongerers. Sorry, expansionist xenophobic war-mongerers. I knew I forgot something.

It might be possible to mod out an AI's ability to colonize or conquer by removing colony components and troops from the standard tech tree (and make them racial techs so you can still use them), which could have an effect similar to what you seem to be after.

Fyron · #36 September 8th, 2003, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Try the Star Trek Mod? You get the best of both worlds!

How so?

You get both SE4 and Star Trek all in one.

Atrocities · #37 September 8th, 2003, 06:18 AM

I see.

Do you realize you have something like 4000 more Posts than me. When did you do this? How did you do this? Why did you do this? And what Posts have I missed?

Prince Xizor · #38 September 8th, 2003, 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
I too would love to have a game with a bunch of neutral AI's and only a few Majors. Kinda like BOTF.

My thinking exactly! That's why I brought this up in January. SEIV plus the Star Trek mod plus more than five neutrals is probably a whole lot better than BOTF anyway.

Fyron · #39 September 8th, 2003, 06:22 AM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
I see.

Do you realize you have something like 4000 more Posts than me. When did you do this? How did you do this? Why did you do this? And what Posts have I missed?

*creates diVersion*

Look over there! It is a distraction!

*runs away*

Alari · #40 September 8th, 2003, 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
500 turns is a lot to ask for in a PBW game with no combat.

I.. think that was kind of my point.

Ok, new rules, you can attack before turn 500. If you don't accidentaly trip over the minefield welcome mat and actually manage to carry out your attack, you get a complimentary black hole in your homeworld system. ^.^ *silly*

Basically my playstyle would be like antimatter to your matter. I couldn't really expect to play multiplayer and have the kind of fun that I want to have. :>