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March 31st, 2016, 11:35 AM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
Btw, I wonder this:
93 Updated OOB Files
115 Revised picklist files
How I always thought that there's only 1 picklist/OOB:O... Which oob has more than 1 picklist?
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March 31st, 2016, 02:30 PM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
OOBS can have several pick lists. One when playing vs NATO, another set when playing against Mujadeen etc. And the pick lists for all can(usually will) vary due to era, even if they do not vary on opponent ID. Because OOBS usually change organisation at least once in the MBT time frame. Or the points values used for decisions need updating - a Korean war tank platoon may cost 700 points, but a 2000s MBT platoon, 3-4000 or whatever.
The MBT pick lists are data driven, as opposed to being hard-coded as in WW2. This was supposed to be easier than code, but on reflection its more painful to work with chains of external data than say a simple "if opponent==Iran And DateInRange(Y1,Y2) then Rifleplatoon=24". If I were to do it over again, it would be back in a module of code, as that's actually far simpler to manage.
But end users dont need to know anything about the pick lists since they are game data. Only a select few end users have been instructed in the dark rituals .
All any end user needs to know is that "115 pick lists" means that a fair old amount of OOB work was done for the patch.
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March 31st, 2016, 03:05 PM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
There are over Eleven Hundred picklists in MBT so 115 is about 10%
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March 31st, 2016, 03:31 PM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
Wow thanks about explanation Andy . And amount of picklists is amazing and add even more my respect to your hard work (I suppose that working with all picklists needs many many hours (days?)).
Once again I learned bit more about this great game ...
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April 1st, 2016, 06:47 PM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
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There are over Eleven Hundred picklists in MBT so 115 is about 10%
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And that one line explains why its unlikely a game like this will ever be created again.
Makes you realise adding a new OOB or extending a time frame takes far more work than you might think.
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April 1st, 2016, 07:47 PM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
Those 115 were required for the time line increase otherwise the AI would buy nothing
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April 2nd, 2016, 12:02 PM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
Further info about the patch posted to message #1
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April 14th, 2016, 07:25 AM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
Any hope about patch today or tomorrow? Just asking:P
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April 14th, 2016, 08:49 AM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
"soon" is all I can tell you at this time
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April 15th, 2016, 08:55 AM
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Re: WinSPMBT version 10.0 Upgrade patch
Looking like the April 20th for release give or take a day one way or the other
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