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Glad you enjoyed them, folks

Claymore Righ, I like your suggestions. I'll keep them in the queue.

What S_J and Ed Kolis are suggesting sounds like a new article to be called "Dirty Tricks." I was actually thinking of this earlier. Nice idea.

And Aloofi, don't be afraid to use this against the AI... in certain instances (playing on high difficulty with high AI bonus), you will find some of this will simply keep you alive!!

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17.11 Intel Operations
Principles
I. Defense: Maintain an active Counter Intelligence (CI) project, but never let it complete
II. Offense: Commit as many points (completed offensive Projects) as possible in order to consume the enemy CI points storage
III. Use the most unbalancing intel projects, and forget about the rest

Overview
Most SEIV players agree that the intelligence model could be better. Nevertheless, should you play in a game that includes intel, it certainly adds another powerful variable. There are many nuances to the system that you should be aware of. Further there are serveral powerful
operations that you should use... or be ready to defend!

17.11.1 Don't Get Caught Without It
When creating your Empire, choosing to sacrifice your Intelligence Characteristic may come back to haunt you. This stat will relate to a bonus/penalty to the available intel points your
empire produces each turn. This will hurt, as the intel system boils down to who has more points accumulated.
Most players make the mistake of completely handicapping their Intel scores in their race design. That doesn't help! (1FSTCAT)

Research Priority
I recommend that Intel is researched in the latter part of the early game, usually for defensive purposes so that your empire is not exploited for lacking defense. Intel attacks can be defended with relative ease due to inherent defense bonuses. Intel rarely makes or breaks a game of seasoned players, except when noted later in this article.

17.11.2 Point Accumulation and Bucket Management
The available points generated by all intel facilities +/- racial modifier, +/- partnership
treaty each turn may be assigned to any project, of which one or more may be counter intel buckets, different projects, or repeat projects of the same type. When one or more offensive project(s) are completed, the projects are "live" and then measured against the defender's Counter Intelligence Points to determine success.
Tip To control point allocation, turn "Distribute Points Evenly" off, as you may do in research. The project on the far left receives 100% point allocation. You may rearrange projects to keep them from completing so that you may "cook" them all off in the same turn at a later time. This will increase the efficacy of your offensive projects, and stop your CI projects from completing.
And just to clarify, if you turn divide points evenly off, any points not used by the current(first in queue) project when that project is completed, will spill over to the next project in line (to the right), so you can thereby execute many projects one turn and not spend anything on the item on the far right in the queue (end). (Ruatha)

Start with Defense
To protect against intelligence attacks, it is best to maintain a counter intelligence project (i.e. "bucket") with the progressive meter growing but never completing. Generally, I start by ensuring I am protected by investing in a CI project so I can concentrate on other areas of the game. This is a solid investment because CI projects receive a bonus which helps growth more quickly.

17.11.3 Early Intel Offense?
If you go on intel offense early, be aware that the Level 1 projects are not particulary useful. By the time you pay for a sufficient number of Level 1 projects, chances are you have foregone many other critical facilities (i.e. research, minerals), and may be behind the curve because of it. Although it is true that your attacks will succeed 100% when a player has no CI points, the empire you are attacking with intel will become annoyed with you, may now decide to fight with you conventionally, and will most likely decide to catch up with intel points. Other players in the quadrant may catch on as well. The rare situation where Early Intel is appropriate is when you have an especially good start and empire balance, and you can use Intel projects to support conventional military operations (masses of ship bombs or engine damage, for instance). Ask yourself if you will reasonably be able to keep and exploit the advantage of this particular enemy first.

17.11.4 The Scoop on Counter Intel
A CI project is like a bank account. Available points are invested in projects (with interest).
Attacks subtract points from CI projects. This exchange happens each turn and new points go into
the CI project before your attacks come in. (Slick) Points added to CI in a turn are indeed used for defense in that turn if necessary. CI has no limit to the number of projects it can theoretically stop. (Imperator Fyron) For any given attack, if the defender has (greater
than or equal to) stored CI points, the attack will be blocked, and the corresponding amount of
points are deducted from your stored CI projects, starting from the rightmost one and moving left. When you have no CI projects or no points stored in any of your CI projects, any subsequent completed attack project against your empire succeeds at 100% (Puppet Political Parties is 50%).

17.11.4.1 Project Levels
Accumulate CI points in the highest level available project. Don't complete or delete an old project, especially if you have new access to a higher level inter project; the points stored are cumulative across all active intel projects. All stored CI points work together as it were no matter if they are spread out amongst multiple CI projects. (Slick) Simply begin a new CI project and shuffle the old project to the right.

-CI I You do not have Intel technology? but your partner does. 1.2 bonus to applied points
-CI II is readily available with Applied Intel 1; use it. 2.4 bonus to applied points
-CI III is available with Applied Intel 2. 3.6 bonus to applied points

17.11.5 Recovering from an Intel Barrage
There may be an unfortunate time in the game when you are getting pounded with intel attacks from one or more parties, and your defense is depleted each round. This situation ranges in
severity to annoying to unrecoverable (attaker may toy with you until game is ended). In general, it's usually a pretty bad place to be. Try the following:

a. prioritize a CI project (highest level possible) to rebuild a defense; replace deleted CI projects as necessary
b. build as many intel facilities as possible
c. of course, destroying an opponent's intel facilities diminishes his attack points

17.11.6 Offensive Projects
In general, there are guidelines for applying intel power.

a. As mentioned earlier, ask yourself if you will reasonably be able to keep and exploit the
advantage of this particular enemy before unleashing your attacks, while defending yourself
against an estimated backlash.
b. Because of the bonuses applied to CI defensive projects, you must whittle down your target's accumulated CI points. Go big or stay home. Attacking with a few weak projects here and there only alerts them to your intel ambitions and encourages them to increase CI points.
c. HOT When you have unleashed your attacks and broken his initial CI defense, you can estimate how many and which of your attacks will get through. For example, one can breach the intel defences by timing several attacks to complete at the same time. Your opponent seems to be blocking about 20,000 points, and you have two crew insurrections attacks near completion. Add 2 ship bombs in front of them (to the left). All 4 complete together this turn. The 2 ship bombs were stopped... but the 2 crew insurrections succed. Time them based on the enemy's points.
d. Applying Intel pressure is best with a buddy. Or two. Heck, invite all your friends to join in. Nothing like the "Dogpile on the Rabbit" on the 1st place Talisman weilding empire.

17.11.7 Covert Ops Briefing
Here are the most popular and useful Intel projects:

Honorable mention

Engine Damage: 10k, Multiple projects against a single ship in a fleet tends to stop the entire fleet in it's tracks. Also nice as a pre-attack warm-up.

Ship Bomb: 10k, Running 10 ship bomb intels a turn has saved my butt on several occassions. Knock out key ships from invading fleets when your own fleets aren't quite upto the task. A few
rounds of ship bombs can be nasty. (Cyrien)

Order Snafu: 10k, Used against early raiders to buy your colonies some time.

Ship Blueprints: 15k, I figured out, after much hmming and haahing, that stolen ship blueprints
can then be plugged into the simulator to give you a much better idea how your ships will
compete with available enemy designs. (Pooka)
Tip: Write down the results of stuff like Ship Blueprints and Tech Reports because this will not be updated where you might expect (known technology for an empire, known enemy designs) - though this might have been fixed for Ship Blueprints. (Ed Kolis)

Anarchy Groups: 15k, If you know or suspect your enemy's planets are close to riots (especially those filled with foreign population), this can nudge that planet toward unproductivity. Not bad for the price.

Communications Interceptors: especially fun in multi-player (PBW) games... prevents players
trades and gifts from getting through.

Puppet Political Parties: 100k, has a 50% of stealing that planet from your enemy... also a
chance of causing a planetary rebellion (which also removes it from his control). Use against
the best worlds... better if you can defend the newly acquired planet(s) too. This one is fun
but not very reliable for the 100 K price tag.

Technological Espionage (steals a tech level, 150k cost.) Expensive, but in the late game, if you went heavy intel, you can have enough points to do a few of these per round. Which will help since you likely don't have as much research points as the intel-lite races. Also great for sluffing points into when in order to make sure you are putting less than 5k points into your CI project (so it does not complete). (Spoon)

Tech Reports: Helps with the above project (Technological Espionage) by listing a handful of your enemy's tech levels. (Spoon)

Nastiest Attacks

- Crew Insurrection (steals a ship for 50k)
- Resource Procurement (steals 10k of each resource for 15k)
- Food Contamination (kills 100M population for 15k)
- Comm Mimic (makes one empire declare war on another for 20k

--Crew Insurrection: 50k, Or, you can think more subtly... Capture an enemy Colony Ship... He's probably got dozens of them hanging around, so he won't miss one or two... What can I do with a Colony Ship, you ask? Well... now you have a sample of another race's population, which if you're lucky breathes a different atmosphere - and if you're even luckier he even has a different planet type so you can analyze the colony ship and steal his colony tech! Consider targeting transports- if you get lucky, you can get some breathers from another environment. If it is a minelayer/sweeper, heck, that is a good chunk of change you may save on research when you deconstruct & analyze.

Use Crew Insurrection as a poor man's Technological Espionage - it's only 1/3 the cost, and you can get multiple technologies from a single ship! There are only two drawbacks: 1. The enemy has to have the technology you want actually deployed on a ship, not just researched. And 2. You have to manage to get the ship back to one of your spaceyards safely to get the technology! (EdKolis)

--Food Contamination: 15k, Only use Food Contamination on smaller colonies - don't even bother with a homeworld! The population will regenerate in a turn or two and you'll have wasted 20K intel points. But if you use it on a smaller colony (such as 50M), you can wipe out the entire colony and force the enemy to send a transport to repopulate it before it can produce or build anything!

--Resource Procurement: 15k, Resource Procurement steals 10000 resource points (lowers enemy total storage and raises your own stored resources by 10000), and only costs 15000... as opposed to Economic Disruption, which lowers enemy resource storage by 10000 points and cost 20000 intel. (Imperator Fyron) Never use the one that destroys resources, if you feel the urge to, use the resource stealing project instead - it's cheaper, has the same effect on the enemy, and you get resources as a bonus! (Note: some mods fix this oversight, check the mod before you try this!) (Ed Kolis) Bombard an enemy with many of these, and their economy eventually dries up. Unfortunately, only one successful subtraction will be made per turn.

-- Communication Mimic: 20k, Forces an empire of your choice to declare war on another empire of
your choice. Key impact: It wipes out treaties, removing up to 20% incoming and outgoing
bonuses. This is huge, and well worth the project cost. It also just causes plain confusion.


What about the other projects?
Well... ughh.. they are pretty darn crappy.

17.11.8 Intel and the AI bonus
And don't forget the AI bonus factored into the intel modifiers (#2):
1. Level of counter intel project: Level 2 will double, Level 3 will increase the effect three
times of the counter intel points.
2. AI bonus: low 2x, medium 3x, high 5x the intel points you see on the score list.
3. Counter-Intel modifier in the seetings.txt file. IIRC this is set to 120% in standard game.
4. Consideration of intel points acquired by any partnership treaty (Q)

17.11.9 fini
Well, that wraps up intel. I'm not the expert, so please add any other tips or strategies I
have not included. Cheers and Beers!

Stoney

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17.11 Intel Operations
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- and if you're even luckier he even has a
different planet type so you can analyze the colony ship and steal his colony tech!
....
I've always found it easier to gain colony tech by trading with an AI opponent. Of the 4 times I've attempted trading my Gas Colony tech for his Colony tech, the AI has always accepted, even when the game is set to team battle.

Of course, this gives him your tech as well ...

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wow, thanks. I've been looking all over for good advice on Intel!
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Soulfisher- you are correct... that trade is often how I acquire colony tech from the AI. Remember, a human you are playing against may not be so friendly.
...Actually, now that I think of it, I have a friend who loves to target transports- if he gets lucky, he can get himself some breathers from another environment. If it is a minelayer/sweeper, heck, that is a good chunk of change you save when you deconstruct & analyze.

Gwaihir- glad you found this helpful.
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Any other feedback on Intel? Things I should add? Just wondering if this helpful.
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I found it very helpful !!!

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Is this just strategies for simultaneous games or do you want things such as tactical mode tips (my favorite part of the game).

Plus if you play hotseat with friends they can help a lot. (Or enjoy facing the AI in battle while grossly outmatched in ships)
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