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Ironhawk · #31 June 10th, 2008, 06:36 PM

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johan osterman said:
In truth I have no idea how big the increase is.

I just got off the phone with JK. He assures me that the limits for both units and commanders have increased by "a gazillion". His words.

NTJedi · #32 June 11th, 2008, 04:50 AM

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quantum_mechani said:
Dome stacking is gone (at least the most abusive air dome kind).

I see this issue listed within the bug thread, yet I don't see anything mentioned about this being fixed within the bug thread or the Illwinter progress page. I only see voice of Apsu/Tiamat being fixed as being used against domes.

What's your source for the issue being gone?

quantum_mechani · #33 June 11th, 2008, 04:58 AM

A brief test Micah ran. As I recall, the bug was that you could stack up enough air domes that no spells would get through, so none would shatter. The test showed that if any air dome failed a check, then that one was shattered. Which is arguably still abusable, but it's also not to hard for the other person to shatter those domes fairly cheaply with 2-3 gem rituals.

Micah · #34 June 11th, 2008, 05:50 AM

Actually the last time I ran the test (Which was the previous patch, I believe) each spell just checked against one air dome, no matter how many were in the stack. If it penetrated the spell would work and one dome would be broken. The next incoming spell would then check against a dome, assuming there was at least one left.

Thus, if there are 10 air domes on a province and someone launches 45 mind hunts at it that means (on average, of course) that 9 mind hunts will go off in the province and one dome will be left.

I didn't try this with multiple dome types, someone else can be my guest =)

Zeldor · #35 June 11th, 2008, 05:58 AM

Last time I had multiply domed province [1-2 fire domes, 2-3 air domes, 1-2 astral domes] some spells got through [I got message about fire dome killing enemy mages] but none of them went down.

Gandalf Parker · #36 June 11th, 2008, 11:26 AM

Im guessing that with Kristoffer doing most of the updates lately that the gameplay and mod wishlists will be be looked at more than maps and server wishlists.

NTJedi · #37 June 11th, 2008, 12:23 PM

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Zeldor said:
Last time I had multiply domed province [1-2 fire domes, 2-3 air domes, 1-2 astral domes] some spells got through [I got message about fire dome killing enemy mages] but none of them went down.

The fire dome effect can still strike enemies without the spells penetrating the air and astral domes. Each dome is like a layer of cake... if they penetrate the fire dome they can still be stopped by the astral or air dome.

Based on the response from Micah it sounds like the domes need more testing. I'm sure if the multiple dome issue was fixed it'd be listed on the progress page or updated on the bug shortlist... no reason for Illwinter to secretly fix a major issue.

Endoperez · #38 June 11th, 2008, 12:32 PM

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NTJedi said:
I'm sure if the multiple dome issue was fixed it'd be listed on the progress page or updated on the bug shortlist... no reason for Illwinter to secretly fix a major issue.

They can forget to list it, or it might have been fixed when they weren't updating the progress page. I didn't know it was a major issue, and I read almost everything that isn't in the MP subforum.

NTJedi · #39 June 11th, 2008, 12:41 PM

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Endoperez said:
They can forget to list it, or it might have been fixed when they weren't updating the progress page.

My career has me work with developers and it's very unlikely for any developer to forget listing major fixes... yet I guess anything is possible.

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Endoperez said:
I didn't know it was a major issue, and I read almost everything that isn't in the MP subforum.

Yes, major issue... as it's listed this way in the shortlist bug thread. (RED) Guess I read more than you. lol

Kristoffer O · #40 June 11th, 2008, 12:48 PM

> My career has me work with developers and it's very unlikely for any developer to forget listing major fixes... yet I guess anything is possible.

It is perfectly common to forget listing fixes. Major or Minor. We do it all the time. Actually remembering to document fixes is a lucky event

Sometimes I have the update page up and ready, but most of the time I forget about it entirely. Then it suddenly pops up in my mind and I update whatever I can remember having done the last couple of hours or days. Quite unreliable.