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January 10th, 2009, 11:35 AM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
The idea seems interesting, even though as it is now, I'd think it more suitable for, say, Chaos or Tomb Kings. I am not sure whether it's possible to change it so that spells would change existing wizards instead (turning unit into a new form with better magic and special abilities, plus appropriate gold cost for upkeep), but if it's so, I would make such approach...
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January 9th, 2009, 09:36 AM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
Sounds great!
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January 9th, 2009, 12:01 PM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
Very interesting concept. I'd like to see how it turns out.
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January 10th, 2009, 12:00 PM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
Because it's a summon you mean? It's fairly easy to explain.
"When Teclis brought magic to the humans of the Old World, he knew that while too short-lived to understand High Magic and the full truth of the eight Lores, human wizards could certainly master one Lore. He founded the Eight Colleges that stand today; Bright, Gold, Grey, Amber, Celestial, Light, Jade and Amethyst. The Colleges pick only wizards of clear potential to join their ranks and while they compete for the best and the brightest, they work together to license and thus control aspiring wizards. These minor mages, known as Initiates, may be employed by any of the Colleges to fill lesser roles, acting as scribes, investigating rumours of magical sites and the like. For ambitious Counts and generals, Initiates serve as both magical support and contacts through which fully fledged wizards from their patron College may be hired."
A summon doesn't have to mean you draw a magic circle and use gems to make something appear. You can even have 0 gem summons which then cost gold.
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January 10th, 2009, 06:34 PM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
This looks like its going to be another mod nation that will get me playing this game more than I should
I love the whole wizard summoning concept to get the magic working. Plus I love nations with large numbers of heroes.
One question on the wizard summoning though. If you summon the Patriarch of a school and it dies, will you be able to resummon it again or is it dead?
With Sombre behind the wheel this will be on par with the Skaven mod if not better!
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January 10th, 2009, 08:03 PM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
You can resummon a slain patriarch as though it were a demon lord or similar unique summon. But the cost will be steep, of course.
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January 11th, 2009, 07:31 PM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
Summons which cost not gems but gold are interesting, of course. I didn't know such were possible.
At the same time, an idea that a wizard can eventually reach higher state through certain rituals of initiation is more appealing to me. Or is it impossible to implement by modding?
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January 11th, 2009, 07:46 PM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
I can't see a 'clean' way to do it, sadly. There's probably a few hacky ways to do it, but none of them appeal to me. Maybe you'll be able to work it out when you do 'em.
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January 11th, 2009, 09:24 PM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
I don't think it's doable really. I don't really see the problem with summonable mages either.
If the nations have the accolyte and the normal wizard of each school (thats already quite a list on the recruit screen) then having the 2 higher powers of mages as summons is nice enough if they are not too high into the research tree and don't cost to much gems to get and still need upkeep.
When you said you could make them cost gold I think you meant upkeep right? or can you actually make them cost gold to summon (because I wouldn't know how).
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January 12th, 2009, 04:21 AM
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Re: Warhammer MA: Empire
Yeah, upkeep. 0 gem cost summons which /then/ cost gold.
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