Some notes on MA Mictlan update

[Gandalf Parker]

Couatls are great as mobile support for an army. But they need a flying unit that can accompany it. I like to summon demons but I think they are even better if I can find crystal amazons.

If you think MA Mictlan was abit boring then loosen the restrictions on Lord of Night. Its a Mictlan-only god and at the moment only EA Mictlan gets it.

[Kristoffer O]

Kuritza said:
Making Jaguars home-only and eagles recruitable everywhere would be a big nerf to MA Mictlan. I dont think MA Mictlan needs a nerf.
Mictlan's PD is also awful enough already, eagle warriors wont help it.
Btw, speaking of nerfs, why making High Seraphs home-only? Its not like Caelum is as powerful as its used to be in Dom2. Lightings nerfed, quickness nerfed, false horrors nerfed, armies bigger than in Dom2 (so harder to overshoot with combat spells), High Seraphs old... Arent you affraid it will be the last nail in a coffin?

It is not intended as a nerf. I think they got enough changes not to be percieved as nerfed. I'm interested in changing them thematically and strength-wise. I want them to have other strengths, not just more of one or less of one.

I hope I have achieved this. If they are still percieved as weak I'm more inclined to strengthen the MA eagle warriors than making jaguars recruitable everywhere.

Edit: I would not say Caelum will be weak, beacuse of this. Very few MA nations have 3+R mages recruitable anywhere. When they are also able to fly they can easily be deplyed anywhere, making them more useful then most home only mages.

I believe Caelum is considered one of the strongest nations, and the high seraphs recruitable anywhere is one reason. On the other hand I'm a bit inclined to raise the ldr of the seraphs in general, Caelum being a magocracy. I'm a bit worried that this makes the storm generals useless though.

And Caelum has also been boosted since dom2. Mammoths have turned out to be more powerful nowdays. They have ice crafters. Storm Guard have partial lightning resistance.

Finally some of the nerfs you talk about are not specific to Caelum (true, mamoth boost applies to arco as well), but many (or perhaps most in MA) nations have old mages. Battlefield size affects everyone, and particulary all those nations that do not primarily use evocations. Caelum is perhaps less affected by this than most nations.

[Sombre]

Sounds reasonable.

Lemur people!

[Kristoffer O]

A lemur is a roman ghost. Should perhaps appear with the soul gate in LA Ermor, but not in Mictlan

[llamabeast]

Why did you say "Lemur people!" Sombre?

I feel so easily confused these days.

[Kristoffer O]

Some kind of large eyed forestcritterpeople for MIctlan? I dunno.

[llamabeast]

They are very cute. I want one. I also want a marmoset. I could keep it in a small bag. It would also be great for practical jokes.

[Sombre]

I was/am feeling inspired by the updates to MA Mictlan and I suddenly thought hey, why not have a piratey civilisation based on madagascar? Pirate Lemurs, you don't get much better than that.

Nothing to do with this thread really.

And I meant the animal, not the spirit, but they have the same name for a reason. Ethereal Lemur Pirates anyone? :]

[llamabeast]

There are animal rights people chanting outside my window all day (because there is an animal lab nearby - nothing to do with me or my department). They want to free some monkeys. I am almost considering going on a commando mission and freeing the monkeys myself if only to keep them quiet.

[llamabeast]

Pirate lemurs sound great. You can imagine they would be great for boarding actions. And you would never catch a monkey in the rigging!

More seriously though, that does sound cool, if a little bizarre. Did Madagascar ever have pirates? I always think of them being Caribbean-related (I wonder why). The trouble with pirate nations of course is that pirates didn't really form proper nations as I understand it, and most of their fighting was done at sea, so I think it doesn't translate that straightforwardly to Dominions. But could be done.