Finnish OOB 5.5 - Page 4

DRG · #1 January 17th, 2012, 09:10 PM

OK then this is what it will look like.

Pibwl · #2 January 18th, 2012, 05:11 AM

Great!

Michal

dmnt · #3 January 18th, 2012, 12:27 PM

Gahh, 30 minute time limit for edits.

The other medium trucks do have issues as well, the 2WD truck could be included as a heavy truck without A/T capabilities.

ZIL 6x6 is missing the A/T capability, I suspect Volvo truck was as well an A/T truck. FDF relied on confiscating civilian trucks in case of conflict, so generic civilian trucks could be added.

DRG · #4 January 18th, 2012, 12:42 PM

If you need to edit, then cut and paste to your email program then edit as necessary then paste into the forums and then you will NEVER exceed the 30 minute limit.

However...... I am NOT going to get drawn into a obsessive "debate" about frigging TRUCKS.........OK ? I cannot overstate how little I care about where to draw the line between "medium" and "heavy" trucks but GENERALLY it is carry capacity . The highest carry capacity's get to be called "Heavy" but what's "heavy" in one OOB might be Medium in another and........( wait for it.......) ....I DON'T CARE because IT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

Little trucks are "light" BIG trucks are "Heavy" and anything in between is "Medium" if that's really required..... those are the guidelines.

OK??

I can assure you Andy feels the same way and I am NOT.. ( repeat ) NOT going to add "generic civilian trucks" but what I MIGHT do if this keeps up is rip out every truck in every OOB beyond one that will be "light" one "Medium" and one "Heavy"

PLEASE...FORGET THE DAMN TRUCKS and concentrate on more "important" things

Don

Mobhack · #5 January 18th, 2012, 01:15 PM

Yep. If I were redesigning the OOBs from scratch then there would be just small, medium and large trucks. Saves on game slots, and saves discussions with rivet counter types over how many cup-holders this or that one has, and would have saved us quite a few icons as well.

Andy

dmnt · #6 January 18th, 2012, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobhack

Yep. If I were redesigning the OOBs from scratch then there would be just small, medium and large trucks. Saves on game slots, and saves discussions with rivet counter types over how many cup-holders this or that one has, and would have saved us quite a few icons as well.

Okay, to sum it up what I wanted to say:
Finnish OOB lacks A/T designation for AWD trucks, which is a big thing as trucks are used to transport the infantry and mortars. It's a biggie because the typical terrain will be filled with forest and there's a lack of roads.

What you call them is not as important, how you categorize them is not as important, if you don't have an armored version of them that's not important.

It's your OOB after all, and just saying "IMO not worth the trouble" is enough for an explanation. Users are able to post and use modified OOBs in PBEM games. Don's response seems harsh to me and makes me feel unwelcome: a simple "It's just trucks, it's minor and not worth trouble changing them apart from the move class." would have sufficed.

DRG · #7 January 19th, 2012, 02:14 AM

The trucks that exist in the Finn OOB were given AT wheel capability this morning.

What I don't need or want is MORE trucks that do the same thing as the old trucks but with different names so what I did was save you a lot of time and effort posting info I won't use. The fact they were just 2WD instead of 4WD was useful and I have placed a note in the files to check other nations as well

Don

dmnt · #8 February 16th, 2012, 07:41 AM

Some more inaccuracies and outdated equipment in Finnish OOB:

ATGMs
Formation 142 Bn ATGM Platoon (used in Coastal Jg Co)
The ATGMs available are AT-4 and AT-5 (local designation PSTOHJ 82, 82M)

They have been phased out of service (They're not listed under current equipment, in the OOB removed from BMP-2s from 1/05 on) but there is no more recent equipment for Inf-ATGM units in the OOB. Availability should end at the point where Spike MR is available (1/03) or at least other options be given. Units from 71 to 74 Inf-ATGM should be duplicated and given TOW-2B or Spike as the main weapon.

TOW-2 (non-B, designation PSTOHJ 83) is not probably in active use any more, but could be kept in if it actually is still stored yet not active. TOW-2B (designation PSTOHJ 83M) still is.

Units 071-074: Availability to end in 12/2002, add new units with TOW-2B and Spike MR

Rosollia · #9 April 3rd, 2012, 08:05 AM

Thought I'd post this here:

In the new 6.0 FIN OOB after the date June 2007 formation "MBT Company" only has two tanks in it...

Mobhack · #10 April 3rd, 2012, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosollia

Thought I'd post this here:

In the new 6.0 FIN OOB after the date June 2007 formation "MBT Company" only has two tanks in it...

Formation 52 Points to the wrong platoon type that ends in 2007.

Fix - change all 3 platoons in formation #52 from 1009 "Tank platoon" to 1053 "MBT Platoon", until we issue an updated OOB.

Cheers
Andy