Best Scifi Series ever, canceled! (OT)

[Growltigga]

Hmmm.. speculation aside, I consider that it is interesting to see how people reacted to the various Trek derivatives. I think it is fair to say that DS9 was well received, and those of us who like classic space-opera-esque plot lines with massive battles etc probably found that to be the best one. VOY appears to be universally recognised as the weakest link.

Enterprise has only been on for about 6 weeks over here in the UK but I think the general perception is that it is good. I personally do like the show but do not see how it fits in with any of the "established" history. I mean, IIRC, the first romulan wars were fought with lasers and nuclear missile 'blind' between Earth and the Romulans, neither side knew what the other looked like. Also, wasn't Sol system meant to be attacked 4 times by the Kzinti pre-Federation days? and since when were the Vulcans a horrible bunch of nasty oiks scrapping with the Andorians?

My personal favourite is B5. Good earthy storylines with a bot of ahem, risque/violent overtones and a long running plot. Also, nice to see the humans being one of th weaker races in the galaxy and not a bunch of noble, altruistic heroes

I did like Space: ABAB if only cos it was on late Friday nights just as I got home from the pub. Did they only make 1 series of that? I remeber the Last episode had a peace treaty where Aerotech and the Chigs were going to be shown to have some connection but that is as far as I recall. Anyone clarify this?

[ September 10, 2002, 13:27: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

[Perrin]

Originally posted by Nodachi:
"Captain our Ratings are dropping! Quick, blow up the ship so we can get a new one!"

More like Quick bring back the Borg.

I believe that B5 was so good because it's plot was a set of designed events leading to end. The was no quest too seek out new seasons. In fact the only times that the plot suffered was when they were going to get canceled early and the creator excelerated the plot line. But then they got renewed so he had to try and slow it back down. In fact to make sure the series ended they scrapped the station in the final episode.

B5 Excalibur was going to be a great series (plenty of complex characters with room to grow) until Turner demanded that the creator sex it up more. The creator said no the series is fine. Turner said if you don't do what I say the series is canceled. The creator replied then I guess I'm cancelled. ( Screw you Turner you couldn't leave a good thing alone)

DS9 was really god too. They didn't have to resort to the Borg like TNG and Voyager (and Voyager had to resort to Busty Blonds in skin tight uniforms. ( Not that there is anything wrong with that )).

One of my favorite DS9 episodes was when Q shows up on the station.
Q: "You hit me! Picard never hit me!
Cisco: "I am NOT Picard!

Of course DS9 didn't get really good until Cisco Shaved his head and went back to his Hawk persona from Spencer for Hire.

[ September 10, 2002, 14:00: Message edited by: Perrin ]

[dogscoff]

I remeber the Last episode had a peace treaty where Aerotech and the Chigs were going to be shown to have some connection but that is as far as I recall. Anyone clarify this?

Uhhh... vaguely. I had something to do with the Chigs have originated on Earth before humans arrived and/ or evolved there, so they thought they hasd a claim to it.
There was something about treacherous peace-treaty negotiations as well, probably in the same episode, but it was along time ago and I never watched that show sober.

Actually, despite all my whingings about S:A&B, one thing I did like was the fact that very little was known about the Chigs. You never saw under their armour and only at the very end of the series did anyone successfully communicate with them. That was good, and probably quite realistic. If we ever do meet alien life forms it will be very difficult to learn to talk to them. .

[Growltigga]

really? strange how the CHigs originated on Earth when they couldn't breathe oxygen or something.

I liked the spaceships in S:ABAB. The carriers I thought looked very cool and the hammerhead fighter were well groovy with those rear cannon

Anyone see those two episodes with Chiggy Von Richtofen?

[geoschmo]

[quote]Originally posted by Perrin:

One of my favorite DS9 episodes was when Q shows up on the station.
Q: "You hit me! Picard never hit me!
Cisco: "I am NOT Picard!

Not only was that a very funny line, it had a dark undertone because at the time Cisco was very much still blaming Picard for the death of his wife at Wolf 359. That was one of the best things about DS9 was the characters had so much depth. The writing on that show was just so much better than any other Trek.

Geoschmo

[dogscoff]

really? strange how the CHigs originated on Earth when they couldn't breathe oxygen or something.

Like I say, I was drunk. I think it was something to do with bacteria floating around on rocks in space... the bacteria that evolved into Chigs started on an Earth rock, and the human bacteria originated on Mars.
I think. Maybe. I dunno. It all sounds about right, but it would have been about '97 I saw this, and at the time reeling under the appalling hallucinatory influence of student homebrew lager. That's the Last time I watched any S:A&B though.

The carriers I thought looked very cool

I remember them looking like modern aircraft carriers in dumped space. I was surprised they bothered taking the propellors & rudders off. Still, no accounting for taste...

[ September 10, 2002, 14:45: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[Growltigga]

[quote]Originally posted by dogscoff:

and at the time reeling under the appalling hallucinatory influence of student homebrew lager. That's the Last time I watched any S:A&B though.

I was surprised they bothered taking the propellors & rudders off. Still, no accounting for taste...

I suspect your homebrew was made out of head and shoulders shampoo and washing up liquid.

and I LIKED THE CARRIERS, they looked like chunky mean rectangular things with a rear bridge and stacks of cannon and rocket launchers... and this critcism from a man who thinks spaceships have horns and dragonheads...

lord knows when you will do a Captain Pugwash or Noggin the Nog race

[geoschmo]

BURN!*

*King's English translation: "Touche Gt!"

[ September 10, 2002, 15:25: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[ckotchey]

So Farscape gets cancelled, but somehow Lexx continues to live. Life is unfair.

[dogscoff]

spaceships have horns and dragonheads.

They do. Mine do anyway. I mean, I've never seen a real, live spaceship without horns and dragonheads...