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September 12th, 2004, 06:24 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
It is vitually impossible for all players to agree on anything save perhaps most basic suggestions and bug fixing (and even that can be a problem  ).
As some famous author said: "No matter how great is the book that you wrote, there will be always people who will hate it. And no matter how bad is your book, some folks will love it."
Same goes for computer games... 
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September 12th, 2004, 06:59 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
Not to mention all the bad books being written
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September 12th, 2004, 09:17 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
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Not to mention all the bad books being written 
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September 12th, 2004, 10:27 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
I'd agree with Tauren list, adding these points:
Modify of Drain Life weapon - make them less draining. I'd like to see used other weapons too. Probably this will satisfy the less focus on SC.
When you see Messages, sometimes go to province is required instead of go to commander (like a site searching spell result).
I disagree indeed to the temple burning turn.
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September 13th, 2004, 12:16 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
Hey thanks Endoperez!
Only the first couple of items attributed to me in the orig post are from me; I still have a few (mostly bugfixes) I would like to see listed, but am not sure whether to post them here or not. The (interesting!) discussion about where/when/what to post in threads like this, kicked off by Gandalf's comments, has confused me a bit. Should we post here with stuff or not? Should we give opinions or not?
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September 13th, 2004, 01:19 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
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Arryn said:
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Kel said:
Not to mention all the bad books being written 
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In your opinion.
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My opinion that bad books are written ? I doubt it, can't call a book good unless there is a bad book to judge it by
- Kel
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September 13th, 2004, 01:22 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
If we are going to make an "official" wishlist, then we should have it be only one message that contains the list of all items in the thread. This is too crowded as a list. So I think you are free to post your ideas in there. But we need to organize this pretty fast if we want all these things for Christmas... Ho Ho Ho 
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September 13th, 2004, 01:52 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
Y'know what we need? A wishful thinking thread.
Kinda like a wishlisht, but intended for all those frivolous suggestions which are nowhere near urgent. While the proper wishlist would have, oh, say, "extend the casting queue", "fix the Alchemist's Stone", etc, the wishful thinking list would have entires such as "Cannibalism: Because it makes no sense for Pangaea and BF Ulm's armies to starve just because they've run out of rations".
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Honestly, cannibalism. BF Ulm would be able to do it preemptively, to prevent supplies from eventually running out when under siege, and Pangaea would be forced to do it. Pangaea would eat the wounded and the small first, the sacred(Including prophets) next, and the large Last, BF Ulm would eat the peasants first, the conscripts next, and never eat commanders or knights, R'lyeh would only eat Atlanteans and mercenaries and, as in ages gone by, rule #1 of cannibalism is universally applicable: Thou shalt not eat thine god.
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But I digress. My suggestion stands: One list/subCategory for urgent stuff which just about everybody agrees on, another for more questionable wishes, and maybe even a third for utterly irrelevant and unfeasible stuff.
Like cannibalism.
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September 13th, 2004, 02:02 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
Just to weigh in on the madcastling bit.
I am/was the Vanheim player that attemped to raid Cainehills territories and the most frustrating thing about it was...I accomplished absolutely nothing.
To me, there's no strategy in that. He didn't adeptly shepherd my raiders into a corner and kill them by out-guessing where I was going to go, or strategically place his forces so that when I got my intelligence reports he'd have forced me into a certain province, he just stuck some buildings up and never had to worry about it. Madcastling to me is not good gameplay, it is the death of it. It is too easy to get this sort of thing going, especially combined with the fact that hardly anyone spends money on troops, so all that cash is available for building temples and castles.
I'm not knocking on you Cainehill, nor your skills as a player, I just have a problem with that sort of non-strategy.
It seemed to me from the feel of the game that buildings like temples, libraries and castles shouldn't be *every province* buildings. There's a reason Pan and Man's temples are half the price, because the developers wanted to encourage mass temples for those two nations. At this point in time, it doesn't look like the money is an issue anymore.
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September 13th, 2004, 02:15 PM
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Re: Wishlist for September
Building a lot of Castles is common in middle ages, every "province" had his castle, big or small ...
Building a lot of the requires a lot of turns, gold and efforts, not to count that a successfull raid burn out an half built castle.
However probably Castles could be reviewed.
Effectively Watchtower and Mausoleum aren't real castle, and didn't provided any real defence to the province.
A wizard tower too don't provide a good defence.
My proposal could get some code work ... but if we count Watchtower as a patrol bonus unit instead of a castle (probably none will choose it anymore however) for defence issue (so in you conquer the province you take immediately the watchtower and you don't need to siege and storm), but you can recruit as a castle.
Mausoleum should work the same for defence and build, but should give a bonus when casting Death spells ... a small bonus like a 10% gem discount.
Wizard Tower should give a small bonus when casting a remote or summoning spell ... perhaps a 10% discount on gems, rounded down, because the tower is suited to support magic channeling (ie a Seeking Arrow will still cost 3 gems, a Fire from Afar will drop from 10 to 9 gems, a Summon Lamia Queen from 15 to 14 because it's rounded down the discount). Wizard Tower doesn't count as castle for defence meaning.
I'd add some Administration to all other castles.
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